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$T PROC(xxxx) will cause JES2 to re-allocate the concatenation. From the manual:

If a $T PROCLIB command is entered with no operands, then concatenation will be 
reallocated. This is useful to retry a
previously failed allocation or to pick up updates to an existing data set (for 
example, a data set cataloged
on a new volume) including static PROCLIB concatenation from the JES2 PROC.

Andy Styles
z/Series Systems Programmer


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I believe so.
ISTR that you needed to submit a job with a proc that did not exist to force 
JES to reopen all the proclib concats and update the control block.

As another poster suggested, I would remove the proclibs from JES and use 
JCLLIB instead.

HTH,

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I just tested this scenario on a z/OS 2.5 system.  I even went so far as to 
reallocate the proclib on a different volume.  Unfortunately, the proclib I 
picked was one allocated to MSTJCL.  I got S213 abends when trying to issue a 
start for anything.  I put it back on the original volume, and all was good.

I wonder if I had picked another proclib that was not in MSTJCL, if moving to a 
new volume would have worked.  I might try that later today.




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> Re delete/reallocate is true. Jes closes the proclibs between uses
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> Urban legend or false memory. But in the early 1980s, I was told that if you 
> started a proc that did not exist, JES2 would open and close each proclib in 
> the concatenation. In fact, I was told, and if I remember correctly, I was 
> able to backup a proclib that ran out of directory blocks, delete the 
> library, re-allocate the library, restore the library, issue a start on a 
> non-existent proc, and all was good.
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> On Wednesday, June 12th, 2024 at 8:12 AM, Lennie Bradshaw 
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> > As far as I know JES2 holds proclibs open normally. There may be a way to 
> > get it to close and re-open them.
> > JES2 runs with the NDSI bit set in the PPT. Hence it does not issue ENQs 
> > for any datasets it allocates.
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> > On Wed, 12 Jun 2024 08:55:56 +0000, Lennie Bradshaw wrote:
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> > > I believe JES2 read the proclibs without data integrity (i.e. no ENQs are 
> > > issued for the libraries). ...
> >
> > Why!? Is PDSE a solution? IEB COPY with DISP=SHR?
> >
> > We had a developer-facing local PROCLIB catenand. I routinely updated a 
> > member in background using ISPF EDIT ENQs.
> > Once I found another developer's content in "my" member. She had 
> > courteously signed it. She explained that she had updated her member from a 
> > test system sharing DASD. Admin explained that MIM had crashed on that 
> > system at that time.
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> > MIM isn't fail-safe. But the price of fail-safe might be inability to IPL 
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