Ahhhh. We don't have enough data to migrate so that hadn't occurred to me. Of 
course!

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From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List <[email protected]> On Behalf Of 
Farley, Peter
Sent: Monday, August 5, 2024 4:33 PM
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: How to "touch" mainframe files

Yes it does – recalling large migrated files may not have enough free DASD to 
get recalled, especially when there are lots of them (as OP also said I 
believe).

Hence the OP request to change last access time WITHOUT a recall (i.e. without 
OPEN).  Plus recalling really large datasets from ML2 can take quite a lot of 
elapsed time.

Peter

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Phil Smith III
Sent: Monday, August 5, 2024 4:12 PM
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Subject: Re: How to "touch" mainframe files


Well there you go:



//MASK EXEC PGM=IEFBR14

//STEPLIB   DD DISP=SHR,DSN=some.dataset.name



Looked before, DOLR was 8/1; repeated to be sure looking at DOLR didn't change 
DOLR (which would be Bad, but); ran job; now DOLR is 8/5.



Now, OP had something about "the files are large" but if anyone explained why 
that mattered for this, I missed it. Does it?



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Seymour J Metz

Sent: Monday, August 5, 2024 3:46 PM

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Subject: Re: How to "touch" mainframe files



An authorized application can directly update the VTOC, but an unauthorized 
application needs the allocation and OPEN. Neither the C/I nor the Initiator 
will open the dataset unless it is, e.g., STEPLIB.



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I thought the op requires no allocation, no IO. VTOC alteration is the only 
way, I assume.



ITschak



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On Mon, Aug 5, 2024 at 9:02 PM Seymour J Metz 
<[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:



> No, you need an OPEN.

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> I used to run IEFBR14 with a disp of shr,keep,keep to touch a dataset.

> It keeps it from going to archive without opening it. Not sure if it

> updates the last used date or not. I'd assume it would.

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