Yes it does – recalling large migrated files may not have enough free DASD to get recalled, especially when there are lots of them (as OP also said I believe).
Hence the OP request to change last access time WITHOUT a recall (i.e. without OPEN). Plus recalling really large datasets from ML2 can take quite a lot of elapsed time. Peter From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List <[email protected]> On Behalf Of Phil Smith III Sent: Monday, August 5, 2024 4:12 PM To: [email protected] Subject: Re: How to "touch" mainframe files Well there you go: //MASK EXEC PGM=IEFBR14 //STEPLIB DD DISP=SHR,DSN=some.dataset.name Looked before, DOLR was 8/1; repeated to be sure looking at DOLR didn't change DOLR (which would be Bad, but); ran job; now DOLR is 8/5. Now, OP had something about "the files are large" but if anyone explained why that mattered for this, I missed it. Does it? -----Original Message----- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List <[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>> On Behalf Of Seymour J Metz Sent: Monday, August 5, 2024 3:46 PM To: [email protected]<mailto:[email protected]> Subject: Re: How to "touch" mainframe files An authorized application can directly update the VTOC, but an unauthorized application needs the allocation and OPEN. Neither the C/I nor the Initiator will open the dataset unless it is, e.g., STEPLIB. -- ________________________________________ From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List <[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>> on behalf of Itschak Mugzach <[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>> Sent: Monday, August 5, 2024 2:54 PM To: [email protected]<mailto:[email protected]> Subject: Re: How to "touch" mainframe files I thought the op requires no allocation, no IO. VTOC alteration is the only way, I assume. ITschak *| **Itschak Mugzach | Director | SecuriTeam Software **|** IronSphere Platform* *|* *Information Security Continuous Monitoring for Z/OS, zLinux and IBM I **| * *|* *Email**: [email protected]<mailto:[email protected]> **|* *Mob**: +972 522 986404 **|* *Skype**: ItschakMugzach **|* *Web**: https://urldefense.com/v3/__http://www.securiteam.co.il/__;!!Ebr-cpPeAnfNniQ8HSAI-g_K5b7VKg!LaR1PZcX103EbarclO_HONndsbbmg0ZktTuwseGM5BQRX4jaldPz9UItnQKbTisVDR9dOAWIf-tnTWsbu4E$<https://urldefense.com/v3/__http:/www.securiteam.co.il/__;!!Ebr-cpPeAnfNniQ8HSAI-g_K5b7VKg!LaR1PZcX103EbarclO_HONndsbbmg0ZktTuwseGM5BQRX4jaldPz9UItnQKbTisVDR9dOAWIf-tnTWsbu4E$> **|* On Mon, Aug 5, 2024 at 9:02 PM Seymour J Metz <[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>> wrote: > No, you need an OPEN. > > -- > Shmuel (Seymour J.) Metz > > > > ________________________________________ > From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List > <[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>> on > behalf of Toby Seguin > <[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>> > Sent: Monday, August 5, 2024 1:53 PM > To: [email protected]<mailto:[email protected]> > Subject: Re: How to "touch" mainframe files > > I used to run IEFBR14 with a disp of shr,keep,keep to touch a dataset. > It keeps it from going to archive without opening it. Not sure if it > updates the last used date or not. I'd assume it would. > > Andrew Huntington > Project Coordinator > SECURITY ARCHITECTURE -- This message and any attachments are intended only for the use of the addressee and may contain information that is privileged and confidential. If the reader of the message is not the intended recipient or an authorized representative of the intended recipient, you are hereby notified that any dissemination of this communication is strictly prohibited. If you have received this communication in error, please notify us immediately by e-mail and delete the message and any attachments from your system. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [email protected] with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN
