Yes, it was a 360/20 with 2416 units...
On Friday, June 27, 2025 at 04:16:41 p.m. EDT, Doug Fuerst
<[email protected]> wrote:
The 360/20 used a 2415 generally. 2 very mechanical drives in one
enclosure. And the infamous 2560 MFCM .
Doug Fuerst
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>From "Ricardo Krigun" <[email protected]>
To [email protected]
Date 6/27/2025 15:52:14 PM
Subject Re: [EXTERNAL] Re: 3420 environmentals?
> My first contact with an IBM computer was a 1401...we got a 360-20 after...
>if I remember the correct model.
>Ricardo Krigun
> On Friday, June 27, 2025 at 01:35:19 p.m. EDT, Seymour J Metz
><[email protected]> wrote:
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> 14xx, 7010, 7070, 7040, 7044, 7074, 7080, 7090, 7094 for sure; maybe 7030.
>The 7072 used the slower 7330.
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>From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List <[email protected]> on behalf of
>Doug Fuerst <[email protected]>
>Sent: Friday, June 27, 2025 1:01 PM
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>Subject: Re: [EXTERNAL] Re: 3420 environmentals?
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>A 729 was the tape device for a 7080/7090/7094. 1410 too IIRC.
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>Watch Nighthawks with Sly Stallone sometime. 360/30 and 2401's in that,
>and a 1403/2540. Not seen much but it's there. I set them up.
>Warehouse on 39th Street on the west side of Manhattan.
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>Doug Fuerst
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>------ Original Message ------
>From "Seymour J Metz" <[email protected]>
>To [email protected]
>Date 6/27/2025 12:56:15 PM
>Subject Re: [EXTERNAL] Re: 3420 environmentals?
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>>ITYM a card sorter. Later on a 727, or a 729 if you're lucky.
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>>Shmuel (Seymour J.) Metz
>>http://mason.gmu.edu/~smetz3
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>>From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List <[email protected]> on behalf of
>>Jerry Whitteridge <[email protected]>
>>Sent: Friday, June 27, 2025 12:47 PM
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>>Subject: Re: [EXTERNAL] Re: 3420 environmentals?
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>>There was a reason all those old movies, when they had to show a computer,
>>showed a bank of 3420's all spinning the tapes.
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>>Jerry Whitteridge
>>Sr Manager Managed Services
>>Tech Operations & Innovation
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>>From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List <[email protected]> On Behalf Of
>>Pommier, Rex
>>Sent: Friday, June 27, 2025 9:26 AM
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>>Subject: EXTERNAL Email: Re: [EXTERNAL] Re: 3420 environmentals?
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>>Or with the 3480 autoloaders, "Hey look, it automatically loaded the next
>>tape!" Ooh, ahh! Don't get me wrong, they were a cool technology upgrade
>>but pretty unimpressive to watch them in action compared to seeing the 3420s
>>start/stop and hearing the flapping sound when a tape rewound off the takeup
>>spool.
>>
>>Rex
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>>-----Original Message-----
>>From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List <[email protected]> On Behalf Of
>>Phil Smith III
>>Sent: Friday, June 27, 2025 11:18 AM
>>To: [email protected]
>>Subject: [EXTERNAL] Re: 3420 environmentals?
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>>Ah, makes a LOT more sense to show something on a reel drive! On 34x0 it's
>>more like "Listen, you can hear the tape rewinding..."
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>>-----Original Message-----
>>From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List <[email protected]> On Behalf Of
>>Seymour J Metz
>>Sent: Friday, June 27, 2025 10:55 AM
>>To: [email protected]
>>Subject: Re: 3420 environmentals?
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>>> With 3480s one could make an interesting "show" for visiting executives.
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>>ITYM 3420 or older.
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>>> Remember the oscillating sort?
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>>I suspect that most folks here are too young for oscillating or poly.
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>>>3420 tape drive had power supplied by IBM 3803 Tape Control. 3420
>>>itself haven´t a direct connection to an installation energy point, 3803 has
>>>it.
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>>I remember the bunches of cables involved with the 3420s+3803, but I did not
>>remember the exact arrangement. As we have said, it was a long time ago.
>>(And yes, the 3490-type tape cartridges are as handy — except it was seldom
>>that there were as many of these just lying around waiting to be used. Of
>>course, that depended on the type of installation involved, etc, etc.)
>>
>>With 3480s one could make an interesting "show" for visiting executives.
>>Remember the oscillating sort?
>>
>>Bill Ogden
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