Rising to the defense of RPG, what other language had its own ruler? Talk about 
ease of coding! Ah the nostalgia.....sigh.

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On Jul 3, 2013, at 9:50 PM, John McKown <[email protected]> wrote:

> I've not run across many languages that I considered "ugly". RPG II was
> one. EasyTrieve Plus is not "ugly", but I don't much like it. The newest
> IBM COBOL is rather nice, albeit still wordy. The first COBOL that I
> learned: ANSI COBOL back in the 1970s made me puke, after learning PL/I of
> the same era.
> 
> The main thing that I hate is a manager saying "use xyz, but refrain from
> using the new omega facilities". The reason being that everybody in the
> shop knows the basic xyz language, but is not familiar with the omega
> features. So I am chained down to the least common denominator for "ease of
> understanding" by those who simply won't learn new stuff. Case in point in
> my current shop, at least in the past, was not using any z/OS UNIX
> facilities because they were "just too esoteric and complicated".
> 
> 
> On Wed, Jul 3, 2013 at 8:59 PM, Shmuel Metz (Seymour J.) <
> [email protected]> wrote:
> 
>> In
>> <CAAJSdjg1jRs6DrNV7xzAftEoGcojyeGf=fvwkbdh_idvozp...@mail.gmail.com>,
>> on 07/03/2013
>>   at 07:10 AM, John McKown <[email protected]> said:
>> 
>> http://www.itworld.com/it-management/363424/only-thing-programmers-have-fear-all-these-things
>> 
>>> I say "yes" to most. #4 is being forced to learn or use some specific
>>> technology
>> 
>> What if you consider a language to be ugly but also consider it to be
>> the best tool for the job? I don't care for Perl syntax, but between
>> the expressive power of the language and the modules available in
>> CPAN, I find myself using it regardless. That's not a boss telling me
>> that I have to - it's my own decision.
>> 
>> --
>>     Shmuel (Seymour J.) Metz, SysProg and JOAT
>>     ISO position; see <http://patriot.net/~shmuel/resume/brief.html>
>> We don't care. We don't have to care, we're Congress.
>> (S877: The Shut up and Eat Your spam act of 2003)
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