Mark IV had a ruler too... On Thu, Jul 4, 2013 at 1:19 PM, Anthony Babonas <[email protected]> wrote: > Rising to the defense of RPG, what other language had its own ruler? Talk > about ease of coding! Ah the nostalgia.....sigh. > > Sent from Tony's iPhone. > > On Jul 3, 2013, at 9:50 PM, John McKown <[email protected]> wrote: > >> I've not run across many languages that I considered "ugly". RPG II was >> one. EasyTrieve Plus is not "ugly", but I don't much like it. The newest >> IBM COBOL is rather nice, albeit still wordy. The first COBOL that I >> learned: ANSI COBOL back in the 1970s made me puke, after learning PL/I of >> the same era. >> >> The main thing that I hate is a manager saying "use xyz, but refrain from >> using the new omega facilities". The reason being that everybody in the >> shop knows the basic xyz language, but is not familiar with the omega >> features. So I am chained down to the least common denominator for "ease of >> understanding" by those who simply won't learn new stuff. Case in point in >> my current shop, at least in the past, was not using any z/OS UNIX >> facilities because they were "just too esoteric and complicated". >> >> >> On Wed, Jul 3, 2013 at 8:59 PM, Shmuel Metz (Seymour J.) < >> [email protected]> wrote: >> >>> In >>> <CAAJSdjg1jRs6DrNV7xzAftEoGcojyeGf=fvwkbdh_idvozp...@mail.gmail.com>, >>> on 07/03/2013 >>> at 07:10 AM, John McKown <[email protected]> said: >>> >>> http://www.itworld.com/it-management/363424/only-thing-programmers-have-fear-all-these-things >>> >>>> I say "yes" to most. #4 is being forced to learn or use some specific >>>> technology >>> >>> What if you consider a language to be ugly but also consider it to be >>> the best tool for the job? I don't care for Perl syntax, but between >>> the expressive power of the language and the modules available in >>> CPAN, I find myself using it regardless. That's not a boss telling me >>> that I have to - it's my own decision. >>> >>> -- >>> Shmuel (Seymour J.) Metz, SysProg and JOAT >>> ISO position; see <http://patriot.net/~shmuel/resume/brief.html> >>> We don't care. We don't have to care, we're Congress. >>> (S877: The Shut up and Eat Your spam act of 2003) >>> >>> ---------------------------------------------------------------------- >>> For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, >>> send email to [email protected] with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN >> >> >> >> -- >> This is a test of the Emergency Broadcast System. If this had been an >> actual emergency, do you really think we'd stick around to tell you? >> >> Maranatha! <>< >> John McKown >> >> ---------------------------------------------------------------------- >> For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, >> send email to [email protected] with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, > send email to [email protected] with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN
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