Working most of these..RPG was a bit of challenge ..easytrieve wasn't too , but I have In SAS..now MarkIV, haven't heard of that one. I also learned Assembler, Cobol and the PL/1 ...like several of the guys I liked PL/1 ...
Scott ford www.identityforge.com from my IPAD 'Infinite wisdom through infinite means' On Jul 4, 2013, at 1:28 PM, Tony Babonas <[email protected]> wrote: > Wow! Never heard of the language but I'm envious. > > On 7/4/2013 5:59 AM, Wayne Bickerdike wrote: >> Mark IV had a ruler too... >> >> On Thu, Jul 4, 2013 at 1:19 PM, Anthony Babonas <[email protected]> >> wrote: >>> Rising to the defense of RPG, what other language had its own ruler? Talk >>> about ease of coding! Ah the nostalgia.....sigh. >>> >>> Sent from Tony's iPhone. >>> >>> On Jul 3, 2013, at 9:50 PM, John McKown <[email protected]> >>> wrote: >>> >>>> I've not run across many languages that I considered "ugly". RPG II was >>>> one. EasyTrieve Plus is not "ugly", but I don't much like it. The newest >>>> IBM COBOL is rather nice, albeit still wordy. The first COBOL that I >>>> learned: ANSI COBOL back in the 1970s made me puke, after learning PL/I of >>>> the same era. >>>> >>>> The main thing that I hate is a manager saying "use xyz, but refrain from >>>> using the new omega facilities". The reason being that everybody in the >>>> shop knows the basic xyz language, but is not familiar with the omega >>>> features. So I am chained down to the least common denominator for "ease of >>>> understanding" by those who simply won't learn new stuff. Case in point in >>>> my current shop, at least in the past, was not using any z/OS UNIX >>>> facilities because they were "just too esoteric and complicated". >>>> >>>> >>>> On Wed, Jul 3, 2013 at 8:59 PM, Shmuel Metz (Seymour J.) < >>>> [email protected]> wrote: >>>> >>>>> In >>>>> <CAAJSdjg1jRs6DrNV7xzAftEoGcojyeGf=fvwkbdh_idvozp...@mail.gmail.com>, >>>>> on 07/03/2013 >>>>> at 07:10 AM, John McKown <[email protected]> said: >>>>> >>>>> http://www.itworld.com/it-management/363424/only-thing-programmers-have-fear-all-these-things >>>>> >>>>>> I say "yes" to most. #4 is being forced to learn or use some specific >>>>>> technology >>>>> >>>>> What if you consider a language to be ugly but also consider it to be >>>>> the best tool for the job? I don't care for Perl syntax, but between >>>>> the expressive power of the language and the modules available in >>>>> CPAN, I find myself using it regardless. That's not a boss telling me >>>>> that I have to - it's my own decision. >>>>> >>>>> -- >>>>> Shmuel (Seymour J.) Metz, SysProg and JOAT >>>>> ISO position; see <http://patriot.net/~shmuel/resume/brief.html> >>>>> We don't care. We don't have to care, we're Congress. >>>>> (S877: The Shut up and Eat Your spam act of 2003) >>>>> >>>>> ---------------------------------------------------------------------- >>>>> For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, >>>>> send email to [email protected] with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> -- >>>> This is a test of the Emergency Broadcast System. If this had been an >>>> actual emergency, do you really think we'd stick around to tell you? >>>> >>>> Maranatha! <>< >>>> John McKown >>>> >>>> ---------------------------------------------------------------------- >>>> For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, >>>> send email to [email protected] with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN >>> >>> ---------------------------------------------------------------------- >>> For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, >>> send email to [email protected] with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN >> >> >> > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, > send email to [email protected] with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN ---------------------------------------------------------------------- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [email protected] with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN
