On 7/3/2013 10:26 PM, Farley, Peter x23353 wrote:
Assuming that IPCS is available to the application staff. In some shops it is
not generally available, but reserved for the systems staff. And there is the
issue of training in the product, which isn't always available either (outside
of reading the FM's).
Personally I have no problem using SYSUDUMP, but these days I most frequently
use an interactive debugger to solve application errors.
Not all production application dump analyzers are created equal. I haven't had
the privilege of using recent versions of ABEND-AID, but I can personally vouch
for the effectiveness of Macro4's Dumpmaster product. I have found that LE
dumps are somewhat less than useful when interrupted or circumvented by the
locally installed dump analyzer and/or poorly chosen installation defaults.
In my experience, lack of training and training updates is the most frequent root cause
of loss of knowledge of "how to debug this simple issue".
Thanks, Peter.
Ahem. For example
http://www.trainersfriend.com/Assembler_courses/C414descrpt.htm
http://www.trainersfriend.com/COBOL_Courses/D732descr.htm
http://www.trainersfriend.com/COBOL_Courses/D735descr.htm
http://www.trainersfriend.com/PL_I_courses/E732descr.htm
http://www.trainersfriend.com/PL_I_courses/E735descr.htm
http://www.trainersfriend.com/Language_Environment_courses/M735descr.htm
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-----Original Message-----
From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf
Of Shmuel Metz (Seymour J.)
Sent: Wednesday, July 03, 2013 9:46 PM
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: Question on how to debug S0C7 (data exception) abend
In
<caajsdjjn4zk-csejvp4exf4ctxc5dnv6cfr5a19pnovvvgq...@mail.gmail.com>,
on 07/03/2013
at 07:16 AM, John McKown <[email protected]> said:
Being old, I have occasionally turned off LE's abend handling and
just "gone for the throat" using a recent compile (with generated
assembler shown) and a SYSUDUMP.
SYSMDUMP, TYVM.
The programmers have forgotten how to do this entirely.
Some things are best forgotten. IPCS isn't perfect, but it's better
than highlighters and paper clips, or the electronic equivalent.
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