Thanks. I'll point him to it. He has already, somewhat jokingly, said "fix
it!" But COBOL doesn't have the DWIW (Do What I Want) verb.


On Wed, Sep 11, 2013 at 12:46 PM, Sambataro, Anthony (NIH/NBS) [E] <
[email protected]> wrote:

> Could you point the programmer to the COBOL Reference and the following
> section?
>
> Alignment rules
> .....
> Alphanumeric, alphanumeric-edited, alphabetic, DBCS
> For these receiving items, the following rules apply:
>         1. The data is aligned at the leftmost character position, and (if
> necessary)
>         truncated or padded with spaces at the right.
>
> And since the caller's data/storage address is passed to the subroutine
> the caller's data area gets padded.
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: John McKown [mailto:[email protected]]
> Sent: Wednesday, September 11, 2013 1:21 PM
> To: [email protected]
> Subject: Re: COBOL "problem" (not really), but sort of.
>
> I can try that. The programmer says that he intents to define the passed
> in area in the calling program at the front of his WORKING-STORAGE so that
> the area is larger. I.e. it is _planning_ on a buffer overflow and _hoping_
> that it doesn't affect the calling program. I don't have authority to
> disallow this. And we don't do any kind of peer review because we just
> don't have the people left.
>
>
> On Wed, Sep 11, 2013 at 12:09 PM, Thomas Berg <[email protected]
> >wrote:
>
> > I would say: the READ .. INTO .. statement doesn't look at the
> > numerical value in the length field, it only looks at the max possible
> > length as defined. And acts accordingly.
> >
> >
> >
> > Best Regards
> > Thomas Berg
> > ___________________________________________________________________
> > Thomas Berg   Specialist   zOS\RQM\IT Delivery   SWEDBANK AB (Publ)
> >
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List
> > > [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of John McKown
> > > Sent: Wednesday, September 11, 2013 7:02 PM
> > > To: [email protected]
> > > Subject: COBOL "problem" (not really), but sort of.
> > >
> > > A programmer came by today with a problem. He is sometimes getting a
> > > S0C4-4 abend in a COBOL program. This is a subroutine. One of the
> > > parameters passed in is a data area, which can be of various
> > > lengths. It is defined with an OCCURS DEPENDING ON with a data
> > > element within the area. I.e. the first 05 level is PIC S9(5) COMP.
> > > The subroutine does a READ of a data set into this area. This is
> > > where the abend occurs. The reason is because the OCCURS DEPENDING
> > > ON maximum size is significantly larger than what the caller is
> > > passing it. And the READ to the 01 is trying to pad the entire
> possible 01 level with blanks.
> > >
> > > The problem is how do I describe this to a COBOL programmer who just
> > > doesn't "get it". He expects COBOL to _not_ pad the "non existent"
> > > occurrences with blanks. And, if fact, to not even reference this
> > > area wherein they would have resided, had they existed. I'm just get
> > > "deer in headlights" looks. I'm not using the correct words, somehow.
> > >
> > > --
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> > > Maranatha! <><
> > > John McKown
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