I have not read every post in this thread. Has anyone else pointed out that
this rather serious compatibility issue is not even mentioned until page 177
of the Migration Guide, where it rates a single short sentence fragment?

Charles

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Subject: Re: PDS/E, Shared Dasd, and COBOL V5

On 9/12/2013 8:12 AM, John Gilmore wrote:
> Tom Conley wroter:
>
> <begin extract>
> All due respect, the cost to IBM's customer base for converting all 
> COBOL executable libraries to PDSE will be measured in millions, if 
> not billions, of US dollars.
> </end extract>
>
> [With] all due respect again, this is empty rhetoric.  The last 
> Decennial Census,  of 2010, yielded a US population aged 5-17 of 
> 53,980,105.  Let us now assume, conservatively, that the members of 
> this group spent an arithmetic mean of US$1.00 per week on junk food 
> in 2010.
>
> The 'alarming' result?  This group spent US$2,806,965,460 on junk food
> in 2010!   'Almost' 3 billion dollars wasted!  Etc., etc.  The
> context-free large-numbers gambit is an old one, but it persuades only 
> the already persuaded.
>
> John Gilmore, Ashland, MA 01721 - USA
>
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So there's no cost whatsoever to IBM's customer base for converting COBOL
executable libraries from PDS to PDSE?  My mistake.

Here are some context-free, large-numbers gambit empty rhetoric numbers. 
  Let's assume 1000 COBOL licenses in the world, with 100 executable
datasets per license (IMNSHO, ridiculously conservative estimates).  So
that's 100,000 executable datasets.  I'll set, again, a conservative
estimate of $1,000 to convert the PDS to PDSE.  Here is how I break that
down.  Planning - 1 hour.  Allocating and copying - 1 hour.  Change control
paperwork - 2 hours.  Implementation - 2 hours. 
Post-implementation followup - 2 hours.  That's 8 hours at a fully-burdened
rate of $125/hr.  I haven't even figured in the cost of DASD.  That's $100M
US just to convert this small scenario I've laid out here.

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