Ed Gould writes:
>The 90 day trial program (to me) sounds like a shady car dealer from
>the wrong side of town.
The term "test drive" has its etymology in the vehicle buying process, new
and used, as I understand it. "Trial" is not so often applied to that
process. ("Would you like to trial the new Fiat 500?" That's at least much
less common usage of the word trial.)
>Simply put, we *DON'T* have such animals [Java programs on z/OS].
>Nor will we in the foreseeable future.
There are no possible business justifications that would lead to
implementing Java programs on z/OS? No matter what the benefits, no matter
what the business requirements your users and customers have, as long as
you're around it'll never happen. Am I understanding you correctly, or am I
misinterpreting you?
Relatedly, prophetically, is John Gilmore correct? :-)
But that wasn't actually the point I was trying to make. I'll try again.
Whether *you* have Java programs running on z/OS or not, the fact is that
*all* z/OS customers running Java programs on z/OS have no particular
issues creating, testing, deploying, and managing their applications with
the PDSE prerequisite. And that's been going on for many years. COBOL and
Java are programming languages, both excellent. What makes COBOL so
different in this respect? Why are all the z/OS customers running Java
programs getting their jobs done with PDSEs? What makes them different and
special? What's the secret to their successes, and why wouldn't their PDSE
experiences apply equally to COBOL?
>*EVEN* if we did have need for them [PDSEs] currently the issue of
>cross system use would be a major stumbling block (as others have
>noted).
Yes, duly noted, many times. PDSEs are different, stipulated. (Helpfully
IBM added the E.) So how would you surmount this major stumbling block, and
how would you advise others to do the same? Assume that "do nothing" is off
the table, and PDSEs will get implemented -- fantasize if that's required.
What are the best ways to go about it?
I'll give you another "stumbling block." Enterprise COBOL 5.1 does not
support z900/z800 (and prior) model generations and does not support z/OS
releases prior to 1.13. What if you don't satisfy those prerequisites? You
can't run Enterprise COBOL 5.1. What's the solution? Upgrade at least to a
minimum supported model and z/OS release to satisfy the prerequisites. But
doesn't upgrading require doing something? Yup.
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Timothy Sipples
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