David,

The referenced article only seems to talk about the front end "UX".  The
CTO of HHS didn't even mention the back end (done by CGI Federal).
 Probably slipped his mind :-)

The entire system reported cost over 600 million USD (so far).   I would
bet that I could put together a team of IBM-MAINers and build a system that
works just as well for half as much ;-)

Kirk Wolf
Dovetailed Technologies
http://dovetail.com


On Mon, Oct 14, 2013 at 7:58 PM, David Crayford <[email protected]> wrote:

> On 15/10/2013 4:21 AM, Kirk Wolf wrote:
>
>> How great to finally have government information systems built by
>> hipsters....
>>
>
> Hardly hipsters. The project was outsourced to CGI Federal :). There are
> certainly parallels here with gov.uk, but gov.uk has been a resounding
> success.
> It's a bit like one of those UK TV shows like Fawlty Towers that gets
> remade in the US and fails miserably. However, gov.uk, like most sensible
> startups,
> had the good sense to use the elastic cloud. Once you know how much
> capacity you need you can always bring it back in house.
>
> It's so bad even the github repo page 404s.
>
>
>
>> http://www.theatlantic.com/**technology/archive/2013/06/**
>> healthcaregov-code-developed-**by-the-people-and-for-the-**
>> people-released-back-to-the-**people/277295/<http://www.theatlantic.com/technology/archive/2013/06/healthcaregov-code-developed-by-the-people-and-for-the-people-released-back-to-the-people/277295/>
>>
>>
>> A great quote from the article:
>>
>> Jekyll, for those who are unfamiliar with web-development trends, is a way
>> for developers to build a static website from dynamic components. Instead
>> of running a traditional website with a relational database and
>> server-side
>> code, using Jekyll enables programmers to create content like they create
>> code. The end result of this approach is a site that loads faster for
>> users, a crucial performance issue, particularly on mobile devices.
>> "Instead of [running] farms of application servers to handle massive load,
>> you're basically slimming down to two," said Sivak. "You're just using
>> HTML5, CSS, and Javascript, all being done in responsive design. The way
>> it's being built matters. You could in theory do the same with application
>> servers and a CMS, but it would be much more complex. What we're doing
>> here
>> is giving anyone with basic skills to basic changes on the fly. You don't
>> need expensive consultants."
>>
>> To be fair, the major problems reportedly are not with the UI, but with
>> the
>> back end.   IMO, an example of "pig lipstick".
>>
>> PS> For extra laughs, read some of the comments.
>>
>
> For an extra giggle 
> http://www.reddit.com/r/**webdev/comments/1nj692/<http://www.reddit.com/r/webdev/comments/1nj692/>
> .
>
>
>> Kirk Wolf
>> Dovetailed Technologies
>> http://dovetail.com
>>
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