Okay...time to regroup and re-ask some questions. What are your intentions in regard to the z/OS 2.1 system? Is it TOLERATION or COEXISTENCE?
Toleration, in my mind, means that you can "touch" your 1.11 and 1.13 data/datasets from a 2.1 system without causing corruption of same. It does not imply that a 2.1 system can join a sysplex and be "tolerated". That would be "coexistence". Several people has responded that 2.1 cannot *COEXIST* with 1.11, but can be "tolerated". I lost sight of the difference when I was responding. Others can correct me if I am wrong, but I would suggest that you get that 1.11 system to 1.12 or 1.13 *before* any further intentions of joining a 2.1 system in a downlevel sysplex. -----Original Message----- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of venkat kulkarni Sent: Thursday, January 09, 2014 8:55 AM To: [email protected] Subject: Re: z/OS 2.1 toleration PTFs Hello, Yes, FIXCAT report run good on z/OS 1.11 but when I tried downloading PTF mentioned in this report using Shopzseries, I got below error. SDF Order# was Rejected at 00:23:04 01/09/2014 UA68053 (ORDERED) <<-- Fix not found UA68449 (ORDERED) <<-- Fix not found UA68484 (ORDERED) <<-- Fix not found UA68642 (ORDERED) <<-- Fix not found UA68647 (ORDERED) <<-- Fix not found UA68660 (ORDERED) <<-- Fix not found UA68664 (ORDERED) etc..... Yes, I did same with z/OS 1.13 and downloaded PTF mentioned in FIXCAT report and I was able to download using Shopseries. But all these PTF are mentioned are coexistence PTFs. But My idea was to atleast make this sysplex work with (z/OS 1.11, z/OS 1.13,z/OS 2.1) using toleration PTFs and then we can apply coexistence PTFs, if required. Please suggest. On Thu, Jan 9, 2014 at 7:06 PM, Richards, Robert B. <[email protected] > wrote: > For starters, I would APPLY CHECK and then APPLY *ALL* "good" and > RECEIVE "yes" PTFs. > While that is running, order the "good" and RECEIVE "no" PTFs. Once > they are received, APPLY CHECK and APPLY them. > Rerun the FIXCAT report. > > Do you receive the enhanced "FULL" holddata on a daily basis? If not, > start to do so. > > Run the same process against your 1.13 SMP/E system. > > Ignore toleration and coexistence at your own peril. There are reasons > they are there. > > -----Original Message----- > From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:[email protected]] > On Behalf Of venkat kulkarni > Sent: Thursday, January 09, 2014 8:19 AM > To: [email protected] > Subject: Re: z/OS 2.1 toleration PTFs > > Hello, > FIXCAT report Job statement : > > //SMPCNTL DD * > SET BDY (GLOBAL) . > REPORT MISSINGFIX ZONES(MVST100) > FIXCAT(IBM.COEXISTENCE.Z/OS.V2R1). > /* > > Output of FIXCAT on z/OS 1.11 system > > HOLD MISSING HELD ____RESOLVING > SYSMOD_____ > FIX CATEGORY FMID CLASS APAR SYSMOD NAME STATUS > RECEIVED > _______________ _______ _______ _______ _______ _______ ______ > ________ > IBM.Coexistence.z/OS.V2R1 > HBB7760 AA30563 HBB7760 UA55970 HELD YES > AA30848 HBB7760 UA54053 GOOD YES > AA31461 HBB7760 UA52329 GOOD YES > AA31737 HBB7760 UA55965 GOOD YES > AA32250 HBB7760 UA54344 GOOD YES > UA59082 GOOD YES > AA32285 HBB7760 UA55013 GOOD YES > AA32930 HBB7760 UA60054 GOOD YES > AA33028 HBB7760 UA59742 GOOD YES > AA33652 HBB7760 UA59895 GOOD YES > AA33669 HBB7760 UA56855 GOOD YES > AA33896 HBB7760 UA59276 HELD YES > AA33976 HBB7760 UA56361 GOOD YES > UA57873 HELD YES > UA90567 GOOD YES > AA34259 HBB7760 UA59870 GOOD YES > AA34374 HBB7760 UA58244 GOOD YES > AA35619 HBB7760 UA60884 GOOD YES > UA61476 GOOD YES > AA35929 HBB7760 UA59874 GOOD YES > AA36207 HBB7760 UA68602 GOOD YES > AA36842 HBB7760 UA68578 GOOD NO > AA36878 HBB7760 UA68503 GOOD NO > AA37550 HBB7760 UA66417 GOOD NO > AA37604 HBB7760 UA68466 GOOD NO > AA37696 HBB7760 UA68520 GOOD NO > AA37967 HBB7760 UA69271 GOOD NO > AA38478 HBB7760 UA68480 GOOD NO > AA41430 HBB7760 UA68484 GOOD NO > AA41834 HBB7760 UA69236 GOOD NO > HCPT3B0 AA30281 HCPT3B0 UA50979 GOOD NO > AA34156 HCPT3B0 UA59976 HELD NO > AA37102 HCPT3B0 UA66804 GOOD NO > HCR7751 AA29839 HCR7751 UA51213 GOOD NO > AA29997 HCR7751 UA51255 GOOD NO > AA33320 HCR7751 UA90556 HELD NO > AA34402 HCR7751 UA59051 HELD NO > AA41622 HCR7751 UA68806 GOOD NO > HCS7760 AA37901 HCS7760 UA67112 GOOD NO > HDZ1B1N AA32804 HDZ1B1N UA55131 GOOD YES > HDZ1B10 AA28651 HDZ1B10 UA52686 GOOD YES > AA28937 HDZ1B10 UA53467 GOOD YES > AA29142 HDZ1B10 UA53518 GOOD YES > AA29932 HDZ1B10 UA53419 HELD YES > UA55080 GOOD YES > AA29933 HDZ1B10 UA53678 GOOD YES > AA30161 HDZ1B10 UA52742 GOOD YES > AA30350 HDZ1B10 UA53496 GOOD YES > AA30606 HDZ1B10 UA53659 HELD YES > AA30632 HDZ1B10 UA63836 GOOD YES > AA32293 HDZ1B10 UA59325 GOOD YES > AA32984 HDZ1B10 UA59644 GOOD YES > AA33019 HDZ1B10 UA59489 GOOD YES > AA33021 HDZ1B10 UA59497 GOOD YES > AA33022 HDZ1B10 UA59507 GOOD YES > AA33023 HDZ1B10 UA59523 GOOD YES > AA33024 HDZ1B10 UA59583 GOOD YES > AA33025 HDZ1B10 UA59520 GOOD YES > 1PAGE 0002 - NOW SET TO GLOBAL ZONE DATE 01/08/14 TIME 22:41:45 > SMP/E 35.49 SMPRPT OUTPUT > > MISSING FIXCAT SYSMOD REPORT FOR ZONE MVST100 > > HOLD MISSING HELD ____RESOLVING > SYSMOD_____ > FIX CATEGORY FMID CLASS APAR SYSMOD NAME STATUS > RECEIVED > _______________ _______ _______ _______ _______ _______ ______ > ________ > IBM.Coexistence.z/OS.V2R1 > HDZ1B10 AA33140 HDZ1B10 UA59989 GOOD YES > AA33517 HDZ1B10 UA59693 GOOD YES > AA33528 HDZ1B10 UA55516 GOOD YES > UA59145 GOOD YES > UA90603 GOOD YES > AA33557 HDZ1B10 UA59500 GOOD YES > AA34036 HDZ1B10 UA57018 GOOD YES > AA34486 HDZ1B10 UA57568 GOOD YES > AA34940 HDZ1B10 UA60051 HELD YES > UA60813 GOOD YES > AA34955 HDZ1B10 UA59145 GOOD YES > UA90603 GOOD YES > AA35808 HDZ1B10 UA68802 GOOD NO > AA36294 HDZ1B10 UA65155 GOOD YES > AA36399 HDZ1B10 UA62924 GOOD YES > UA63386 GOOD YES > AA36403 HDZ1B10 UA68642 GOOD NO > AA36409 HDZ1B10 UA68642 GOOD NO > AA36414 HDZ1B10 UA68664 GOOD NO > AA36415 HDZ1B10 UA68692 GOOD NO > AA36422 HDZ1B10 UA68647 GOOD NO > AA36443 HDZ1B10 UA68692 GOOD NO > AA36492 HDZ1B10 UA68642 GOOD NO > AA36536 HDZ1B10 UA68752 GOOD NO > AA36576 HDZ1B10 UA68715 GOOD NO > AA36916 HDZ1B10 UA68642 GOOD NO > AA36996 HDZ1B10 UA63878 GOOD YES > AA37333 HDZ1B10 UA65488 GOOD YES > AA37336 HDZ1B10 UA68721 GOOD NO > AA37349 HDZ1B10 UA68729 GOOD NO > AA37582 HDZ1B10 UA68711 GOOD NO > AA39618 HDZ1B10 UA68660 GOOD NO > AA39619 HDZ1B10 UA68660 GOOD NO > AA39620 HDZ1B10 UA68741 GOOD NO > AA39621 HDZ1B10 UA68757 GOOD NO > AA39875 HDZ1B10 UA66280 GOOD NO > AA40252 HDZ1B10 UA68735 GOOD NO > AA41517 HDZ1B10 UA68788 GOOD NO > AA41864 HDZ1B10 UA68808 GOOD NO > AA42529 HDZ1B10 UA70198 GOOD NO > AA42541 HDZ1B10 UA70129 GOOD NO > AA42551 HDZ1B10 UA69622 GOOD NO > AA42562 HDZ1B10 UA70332 GOOD NO > HJE7760 EA36155 HJE7760 UA68053 GOOD NO > EA41738 HJE7760 UA69018 GOOD NO > HKY7760 AA40504 HKY7760 UA68265 GOOD NO > HPG7760 AA32008 HPG7760 UA53389 GOOD NO > HPM7760 AA30988 HPM7760 UA52849 GOOD YES > AA33749 HPM7760 UA59733 GOOD YES > AA41887 HPM7760 UA69331 GOOD NO > HPV7760 AA35284 HPV7760 UA58996 GOOD YES > UA62453 GOOD YES > HQX7760 AM03128 HQX7760 UK90030 GOOD YES > AM33350 HQX7760 UK90032 GOOD YES > AM37714 HQX7760 UK90036 GOOD NO > AM78102 HQX7760 UK90709 GOOD NO > AM87996 HQX7760 UK96208 GOOD NO > HRF7760 AA30951 HRF7760 UA53336 GOOD YES > 1PAGE 0003 - NOW SET TO GLOBAL ZONE DATE 01/08/14 TIME 22:41:45 > SMP/E 35.49 SMPRPT OUTPUT > > MISSING FIXCAT SYSMOD REPORT FOR ZONE MVST100 > > HOLD MISSING HELD ____RESOLVING > SYSMOD_____ > FIX CATEGORY FMID CLASS APAR SYSMOD NAME STATUS > RECEIVED > _______________ _______ _______ _______ _______ _______ ______ > ________ > IBM.Coexistence.z/OS.V2R1 > HRF7760 AA34258 HRF7760 UA59872 GOOD YES > HSWK3B0 AA40957 HSWK3B0 UA68449 GOOD NO > HZFS3B0 AA32187 HZFS3B0 UA54673 GOOD YES > UA55765 GOOD YES > UA57210 GOOD YES > UA58164 HELD YES > UA58274 HELD YES > UA58834 GOOD YES > UA59383 GOOD YES > AA32925 HZFS3B0 UA55765 GOOD YES > UA57210 GOOD YES > UA58164 HELD YES > UA58274 HELD YES > UA58834 GOOD YES > UA59383 GOOD YES > AA39466 HZFS3B0 UA90646 GOOD NO > JCPT3B1 AA34156 JCPT3B1 UA59977 HELD NO > AA37102 JCPT3B1 UA66805 GOOD NO > 1PAGE 0004 - NOW SET TO GLOBAL ZONE DATE 01/08/14 TIME 22:41:45 > SMP/E 35.49 SMPRPT OUTPUT > > MISSING FIXCAT SYSMOD REPORT FOR ZONE MVST100 - FIXES FOR HELD > RESOLVING SYSMODS > > HOLD HELD ____RESOLVING SYSMOD_____ HOLD > > FMID SYSMOD APAR NAME STATUS RECEIVED CLASS > > _______ _______ _______ _______ ______ ________ _______ > HBB7760 UA55970 AA34865 UA58170 GOOD YES PE > UA57873 AA36320 UA60886 GOOD YES PE > UA59276 AA38647 UA64843 GOOD YES PE > HCPT3B0 UA59976 AA36412 UA60720 GOOD NO PE > HCR7751 UA59051 AA38290 UA63853 GOOD NO PE > UA90556 AA34941 UA58475 GOOD NO PE > AA35391 UA59136 GOOD NO PE > UA90556 AA36710 UA61725 GOOD NO PE > HDZ1B10 UA53419 AA33249 UA55080 GOOD YES PE > UA53659 AA35106 UA59155 GOOD YES PE > AA36183 UA61209 GOOD YES PE > UA53659 AA36183 UA63836 GOOD YES PE > UA60051 AA36299 UA60813 GOOD YES PE > HZFS3B0 UA58164 AA36254 UA60328 GOOD YES PE > UA61218 GOOD YES PE > UA61854 GOOD YES PE > UA58274 AA36254 UA60328 GOOD YES PE > UA61218 GOOD YES PE > UA61854 GOOD YES PE > JCPT3B1 UA59977 AA36412 UA60721 GOOD NO PE > > > > On Thu, Jan 9, 2014 at 6:40 PM, Richards, Robert B. < > [email protected] > > wrote: > > > It should. > > > > Just for fun, post your FIXCAT statements that you used for > > reporting on toleration and coexistence and the output for same. > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List > > [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of venkat kulkarni > > Sent: Thursday, January 09, 2014 8:07 AM > > To: [email protected] > > Subject: Re: z/OS 2.1 toleration PTFs > > > > Hello, > > As of now my target is to use z/OS 1.11 , z/OS 1.13 and > > z/OS > > 2.1 system in same sysplex. Can we just achieve this by applying > > toleration PTF on z/OS 1.11 and z/OS 1.13 system.So that all system > > with different version can be part of this same SYSPLEX. > > > > As per the below link APAR OA36207 will be used as toleration PTF > > for z/OS 2.1 > > http://www-01.ibm.com/support/docview.wss?uid=isg1OA36207 > > > > > > - R770 PSY UA68603< > > https://www14.software.ibm.com/webapp/set2/ordermedia/shopCart?ptfs= > > UA > > 68603 > > > > > > > UP13/04/17 P F304 > > - R780 PSY UA68604< > > https://www14.software.ibm.com/webapp/set2/ordermedia/shopCart?ptfs= > > UA > > 68604 > > > > > > > UP13/04/17 P F304 > > - R750 PSN UA68601< > > https://www14.software.ibm.com/webapp/set2/ordermedia/shopCart?ptfs= > > UA > > 68601 > > > > > > > UP13/04/17 P F304 > > - R760 PSN UA68602< > > https://www14.software.ibm.com/webapp/set2/ordermedia/shopCart?ptfs= > > UA > > 68602 > > > > > > > UP13/04/17 P F304 > > > > > > But I am not able to find any more toleration PTF required for this > > sysplex to work. > > > > Please suggest, if this solution will work. > > > > > > On Thu, Jan 9, 2014 at 4:47 PM, Richards, Robert B. < > > [email protected] > > > wrote: > > > > > Adding a link that provides this information: > > > > > > http://public.dhe.ibm.com/common/ssi/ecm/en/zsq03064usen/ZSQ03064USEN. > > > PDF > > > > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > > From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List > > > [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Richards, Robert B. > > > Sent: Thursday, January 09, 2014 6:09 AM > > > To: [email protected] > > > Subject: Re: z/OS 2.1 toleration PTFs > > > > > > Good catch! You are right! > > > > > > The OP must get off of any z/OS 1.11 systems first. Migrating it > > > to > > > 1.12 would probably be the least painful. > > > > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > > From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List > > > [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of ITURIEL DO > > > NASCIMENTO NETO > > > Sent: Thursday, January 09, 2014 5:57 AM > > > To: [email protected] > > > Subject: RES: z/OS 2.1 toleration PTFs > > > > > > Hi, > > > > > > I don't know if z/OS 1.11 can coexist in the same Sysplex with > > > z/OS > 2.1. > > > > > > > > > Atenciosamente / Regards / Saludos > > > > > > Ituriel do Nascimento Neto > > > BANCO BRADESCO S.A. > > > 4250 / DPCD Engenharia de Software Sistemas Operacionais > > > Mainframes > > > Tel: +55 11 3684-2177 R: 42177 3-1402 > > > Fax: +55 11 3684-4427 > > > > > > > > > > > > Agora é BRA. BRA de Brasil. 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