We do.  Roscoe is so deeply embedded here, but as a shop we are also 
functionally stabilizing it, in that we are not adding anything new to that 
environment, and in fact, as we migrate to new products(change management, 
etc), they don’t get put back into Roscoe.   The handwriting is on the wall, 
but for now I still have to support that environment for some time to come.  

This is all coming about because we are abandoning a long held test batch job 
naming standard here that is comprised of T+roscoe prefix to using userid.   We 
have so much highly customized infrastructure to support it.  All Roscoe job 
security is based on the roscoe prefix in the jobname vs securing by job owner. 
  Test jobs in TSO/ISPF are based on userid, and some userids actually conflict 
with the roscoe standards causing confusion with Roscoe users.   We have more 
and more non-Roscoe developers working in TSO/ISPF and one day we will retire 
Roscoe.   All of our development tools(debug, fault analyzer, file manager, 
etc) are all ISPF based that most of the long timers here are straddling the 
fence using both.

I guess I will be adding the SAF calls to the Roscoe Console exit, assuming we 
can get that to work.   Otherwise it will probably be another nail in the 
coffin of Roscoe.

-----Original Message-----
From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf 
Of Mark Zelden
Sent: Tuesday, March 11, 2014 4:31 PM
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: CA-Roscoe shops around?

Do you have TSO/ISPF and SDSF?  Or CA Sysview?  Or any other tool to use for 
sysprogs / operations so you can just leave Roscoe as is with "read only" 
console access to those you chose to let use the command at all?  Or you could 
just use CONSOLE under TSO, that
isn't much worse than the Roscoe console command.    

If you are looking for something a bit more friendly, I have used this rexx 
exec from a redbook:


Extended MCS Console via ISPF doc:                           
                                                             
 This is from Appendix G. of the following Red Book:         
    OS/390 MVS Multisystem Consoles                          
    Implementing MVS Sysplex Operations.  SG24-4626-00       
                                                             
 download from the internet.  either:                        
                                                             
  http://www.redbooks.ibm.com/redbooks                       
                                                             
      OR                                                     
                                                             
 ftp  ftp.almaden.ibm.com                                    
 user: anonymous                                             
 password: your email address                                
 cd redbooks/SG244646                                        
 get emcs.code                                               
                                                             
----------------------------------------------------------------------------------

This is my personal setup, I don't recall if these are the names used or 
recommended in the Redbook

 CLIST: CONS   (invoking clist)                              
 REXX:  CNDS                                                 
 ISPF COMMAND TABLE: CNDSCMDS                                
 PANELS: USRCN & USRCNS                                      


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