On Mon, Mar 17, 2014 at 9:19 AM, Paul Gilmartin <[email protected]>wrote:

> On Mon, 17 Mar 2014 13:12:05 +0000, Staller, Allan wrote:
>
> >VTAM is the pre-req, not TN3270.
> >
> >It depends on the method of *TERMINAL* attachment. If via VTAM, TN3270 is
> not needed for anything/
> >
> >TN3270 is merely TCPIP on one side and SNA on the other...
> >
> "VTAM"?  "SNA"?  I don't know the distinction.
>

VTAM is the software. SNA is the protocol. Yes, they are usually
intertwined. Like TCP and IP. But TCP is a protocol over IP.


>
> And no one has mentioned that it's possible to log on to TSO
> (the posed question) at the "READY" prompt with TELNET, but
> without TN3270. (Or is TN3270 part of the TELNET daemon
> nowadays?)
>

TN3270 is a separate STC from the TELNET daemon. If, by TELNET daemon, you
mean the INETDn started task.

I actually have used TSO from a line mode telnet session. Yes, you can use
the very old ways. If you actually know how to use things like the EDIT
command. And the FIB JES commands (SUBMIT, OUTPUT, STATUS). I sincerely
doubt anybody wants to do this. IMO, if you are willing to do "line mode"
things in TSO, I would think that a UNIX shell prompt and the "tsocmd" UNIX
command would be far more powerful. But it still makes me shudder.


>
> -- gil
>
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