It's really simple, I always tell my younger colleagues: If you're willing to stay in the office after work hours, I'll stay with you and show/help you with a few things, and where to find more information. If not, don't expect me to interrupt my work to do yours.
Some do, some don't, so what? -----Original Message----- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Sankaranarayanan, Vignesh Sent: Wednesday, April 23, 2014 7:49 AM To: [email protected] Subject: Re: Sorry state of IT education? > Now, my usual response to a question which, to me, implies an abysmal lack of > knowledge (Something on the order of "I'm trying to install z/OS and need to > know what JOB card used for."), my usual response is ... silence. Yeah.. That's like, totally unacceptable. Totally. Yeah. - Vignesh Mainframe Admin -----Original Message----- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of John McKown Sent: 23 April 2014 13:21 To: [email protected] Subject: Re: Sorry state of IT education? I will do the "RTFM" response. But, in my defense, I will usually try to include a URL to the proper FM to R. At times, I will even try to quote a paragraph or two. Now, my usual response to a question which, to me, implies an abysmal lack of knowledge (Something on the order of "I'm trying to install z/OS and need to know what JOB card used for."), my usual response is ... silence. On Wed, Apr 23, 2014 at 6:55 AM, Shmuel Metz (Seymour J.) < [email protected]> wrote: > In > <985166dbd01445be809d22441b29b...@db3pr02mb219.eurprd02.prod.outlook.c > om>, > on 04/23/2014 > at 08:47 AM, "Sankaranarayanan, Vignesh" > <[email protected]> said: > > >and most of the experts just say - "R.T.F.M" > > If it's not important enough to you to justify consulting the manuals, > then it's not important to anybody else. You might get a different > response if you wrote what you found in the manuals, what was missing > and what you didn't understand, or if you asked "where is foo > documented?". > > -- > Shmuel (Seymour J.) Metz, SysProg and JOAT > ISO position; see <http://patriot.net/~shmuel/resume/brief.html> > We don't care. We don't have to care, we're Congress. > (S877: The Shut up and Eat Your spam act of 2003) > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send > email to [email protected] with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN > -- There is nothing more pleasant than traveling and meeting new people! Genghis Khan Maranatha! <>< John McKown ---------------------------------------------------------------------- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [email protected] with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN MARKSANDSPENCER.COM ________________________________ Unless otherwise stated above: Marks and Spencer plc Registered Office: Waterside House 35 North Wharf Road London W2 1NW Registered No. 214436 in England and Wales. Telephone (020) 7935 4422 Facsimile (020) 7487 2670 www.marksandspencer.com Please note that electronic mail may be monitored. This e-mail is confidential. If you received it by mistake, please let us know and then delete it from your system; you should not copy, disclose, or distribute its contents to anyone nor act in reliance on this e-mail, as this is prohibited and may be unlawful. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [email protected] with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN ---------------------------------------------------------------------- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [email protected] with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN
