IMHO you can do the following:

a) the easiest. Just add a step "increase library size". Red letters in the Dialog, bold the manual. Clearly put exact commands with *suggested parameters*. That's what I teach people. ;-) Cost of the change is marginal.

b) Provide recommended size. It can be additional field for each library or just predefined % amount. Be generous - disks are cheap (when compared to z/OS or CPU). Or even simpler: just increase the size and allow people to decrease it it they want.

c) variant of b). Use different % values for zero-secondary libraries and maybe some others.

d) add some simple (rexx script?) tool for increasing library size. Mostly usable for offline servicing. Maybe invoked automatically by SMP/E during x37 processing. Of course it won't solve volume full problem (unless it'd be enhanced to move the library to other volume, with DDDEF update).


BTW: You ask which libraries should be increased - YOU (IBM) should know it, we apply there PTFs from IBM. Some stats form the past would be helpful (yes, it's boring job).

Last, but not least: John, THANK YOU for joining the discussion. I appreciate it.

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W dniu 2014-04-28 21:58, John Eells pisze:
One or two people at the past SHARE voiced this very same opinion. Let's say, for the sake of argument, that that's four so far. How do others feel about this?

First, some background: As I recall, the current design of the ServerPac dialog does not allow space to be reduced below the default shipped values, which with a few exceptions include a fixed percentage of free space. There are sound reasons, in my opinion, to NOT allow those values to be reduced from what is shipped today.

Historically, those values have been minimized to help prevent the allocation of additional disk volumes when orders for, say, z/OS and other products included in z/OS orders don't happen to occupy space that's comfortably far away from typical volume boundaries. Editing the ALLOCDS job to reduce allocations and fit within a given number of volumes is painful. Running out of space during service APPLY processing is painful. Allocating additional volumes is painful.

On the other hand disk volumes are, by and large, probably rather larger these days. But we've no direct view of what everyone does with volume sizes "out there in the 'real world.'"

So...what should we do here?

a) We might blanket increase the free space for every data set. (In this case, by how much should we increase it?) This one has the benefit of being easier than the others, I suspect. b) We might add a "recommended space" value and make it possible to reduce space from "recommended" to "minimum." (What should "recommended" be?) c) We might make SMP/E recover from space abends when possible. (Enough space on the *same volume* would likely be a requirement. A potential for even more severe foot damage following careless use of SMP/E on a running instance of software might well ensue.) d) We might add a "Super Size Me!" option to the z/OSMF Software Management software instance cloning function.
e) We might do something else...what?

Bear in mind that, as always, this is a zero-sum game. So if we give you any of these things we will might well have to defer something else in this same area.

Vote early and often...as usual, no promises, except that I'll at least listen.

R.S. wrote:
W dniu 2014-04-28 20:47, Mark Pace pisze:
I don't understand why library sizes on a fresh install of z/OS never
seem
to account for doing maintenance.  <snip>
100% agreed.
<snip>



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