1. Defrag should not release space when secondary space is 0.
2. I vote for 20% free space when secondary space is 0.
3. I vote for 20% of primary as secondary space.

On Mon, Apr 28, 2014 at 2:58 PM, John Eells <[email protected]> wrote:
> One or two people at the past SHARE voiced this very same opinion. Let's
> say, for the sake of argument, that that's four so far.  How do others feel
> about this?
>
> First, some background: As I recall, the current design of the ServerPac
> dialog does not allow space to be reduced below the default shipped values,
> which with a few exceptions include a fixed percentage of free space.  There
> are sound reasons, in my opinion, to NOT allow those values to be reduced
> from what is shipped today.
>
> Historically, those values have been minimized to help prevent the
> allocation of additional disk volumes when orders for, say, z/OS and other
> products included in z/OS orders don't happen to occupy space that's
> comfortably far away from typical volume boundaries.  Editing the ALLOCDS
> job to reduce allocations and fit within a given number of volumes is
> painful.  Running out of space during service APPLY processing is painful.
> Allocating additional volumes is painful.
>
> On the other hand disk volumes are, by and large, probably rather larger
> these days.  But we've no direct view of what everyone does with volume
> sizes "out there in the 'real world.'"
>
> So...what should we do here?
>
> a) We might blanket increase the free space for every data set.  (In this
> case, by how much should we increase it?)  This one has the benefit of being
> easier than the others, I suspect.
> b) We might add a "recommended space" value and make it possible to reduce
> space from "recommended" to "minimum."  (What should "recommended" be?)
> c) We might make SMP/E recover from space abends when possible.  (Enough
> space on the *same volume* would likely be a requirement.  A potential for
> even more severe foot damage following careless use of SMP/E on a running
> instance of software might well ensue.)
> d) We might add a "Super Size Me!" option to the z/OSMF Software Management
> software instance cloning function.
> e) We might do something else...what?
>
> Bear in mind that, as always, this is a zero-sum game.  So if we give you
> any of these things we will might well have to defer something else in this
> same area.
>
> Vote early and often...as usual, no promises, except that I'll at least
> listen.
>
> R.S. wrote:
>>
>> W dniu 2014-04-28 20:47, Mark Pace pisze:
>>>
>>> I don't understand why library sizes on a fresh install of z/OS never
>>> seem
>>> to account for doing maintenance.  <snip>
>>
>> 100% agreed.
>
> <snip>
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> John Eells
> z/OS Technical Marketing
> IBM Poughkeepsie
> [email protected]
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