[email protected] (Mike Schwab) writes:
> Posted at http://www.ahajokes.com/com065.html with one character changed.

re:
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2014g.html#34 Special characters for Passwords

yes, oops, finger slip in URL:
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2001d.html#52

and with respect to "person-centric" (although it was possible to deploy
in an "institutional-centric" manner, one per institution)
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2014g.html#35 Special characters for Passwords

the assigned patents are in the financial industry. at one point some
computer industry companies offerred to underwrite the total cost of
deploying "person-centric" by the financial industry. The financial
industry initially was receptive ... but then they started getting cold
feet ... worried that the computer industry players, having paid for the
deployment, might start wanting to take a percentage of payment fees ...
and backed out. 

a big part of the problem is that the financial industry has had a
difficult time trying to figure out how to make money out of improved
security; for decades the financial industry has heavily prorated
payment fees that they charged merchants based on fraud rates (industry
even being accused of making significant profit off those fraud prorated
fees).

in a 2nd round, it was presented to the major e-commerce merchants
(accounting for something like 70% of transactions) as "safe internet
payments" which saw high acceptance ... the merchants expecting an order
of magnitude reduction in payment fees with the elimination of fraud
(they had been indoctrinated for decades that the payment fees were
heavily prorated based on fraud). Then came the cognitive dissonance,
the financial industry informing merchants that rather than order of
magnitude reduction in payment fees with "safe internet payments", there
would essentially be a surcharge on top of the highest rate they were
already paying.

NACHA 
https://www.nacha.org/

even did a pilot showing that it could be safely used for internet debit
(in addition to credit). news & pilot results gone 404 ... but lives on
at wayback machine (23July2001 item, with pointer to report of pilot
results)
http://web.archive.org/web/20070706004855/http://internetcouncil.nacha.org/News/news.html

at the time, we weren't members of NACHA, so somebody submitted the
proposal on our behalf.
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/nacharfi.htm

demonstration that same exact operation for payments worked with RADIUS,
KERBEROS and every other password-based authentication mechanism
... past posts about the radius implementation
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/subpubkey.html#radius
and past posts about the kerberos implementation
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/subpubkey.html#kerberos

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