Yes!. In our group, we all have activated an 'initial macro' that sets for 
certain datasets some of the attributes we require, like STATS, AUTOSAVE OFF 
PROMPT (to avoid PF3's unintentionally saving modifications).

About what you call IBM chaos: if you look at the history of these features, it 
is explainable how things grew this way. 
First there was no (I)SPF, but there were member statistics as save by the 
linkage editor etc. 
Then came (I)SPF and they at some point in time found it useful to save 
statistics, for ISPF use only. 
Then they developed their own enq's (SPFEDIT) for editing several members in a 
PDS while holding the PDS with DISP=SHR. 
Then we got problems with batch updating PDS's that were in use constantly by 
ISPF users, which was solved by batch updating the PDS with DISP=SHR, which 
corrupted a PDS once in every 1000 to 1000000 times.
Then PDSMAN intercepted disp=shr batch by adding the SPFEDIT enq and the 
linkage editor was doing likewise.
Now we have come to the chaos you describe and yes, someone with a supervising 
view could have stopped this trend and decided to do this at platform level, 
but this did not happen.
It is like a couple of guys developing a communication protocol for their 
computer connections that suited their needs, but now it is used as 'internet' 
and the total world economy depends on it, it should have been developed 
differently.

Kees.


-----Original Message-----
From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf 
Of Paul Gilmartin
Sent: Friday, June 27, 2014 15:37
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: PDSE member profile

On 2014-06-27, at 07:21, Vernooij, CP (SPLXM) - KLM wrote:

> I doubt it, the profiles are an internal ISPF thing and their definitions 
> saved in the user's personal profile dataset. Which/whose settings should FTP 
> use?
>  
Are you saying that if multiple users have write access to a PDS for purposes 
of team development (ISPF supports this operation (I used to believe well)), 
they may follow inconsistent conventions with respect to NUMBER, STATS, 
RECOVERY, ...?

Ouch!

In case of team development, such a profile should belong to the library, not 
to the individual developer(s).

Hmmm...  Suppose one developer's edit session crashes, but RECOVERY is on.  Can 
editing that member be resumed and recovered by another team member?

-- gil

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