John McKown wrote:

>This is just my mind wandering around loose again. 

Catch it! Catch it! ;-)

( There is an old Afrikaans song 'Catch it!' which says how difficult is it to 
catch chicken/pig/sheep/etc. ;-D )


>But I've been thinking about the z/OS syslog for some reason lately. Given 
>what it was originally designed for, review by a human, it is a decent design. 
>But is it really as helpful as it could be in today's z/OS environment? 

Not really because all and every usefull and useless messages are thrown in one 
h*lluva pool. You need a magician to do your searches...


>Is there really a need for the z/OS system log anymore?

Yes. That is as long there is not a good alternative.


>And I will admit that my mind has been corrupted by using Linux too much 
>lately. <grin/>

Please refresh my mind about how is Linux version of log(s) working? 


>So, if such a thing is even needed any more, what might it look like? Should 
>it go to SPOOL? Should it be more like the OPERLOG and go to a LOGGER 
>destination? Or should it go "somewhere else"?

Control-D (yeah, I know you want freebies, but...) can do that. It slurps up 
any pre-defined/selected output from JES2 and store it in its own archives for 
easy retrieval.


>So I would prefer that the output be in something like XML or JSON structure, 
>not "column" based. And no encoded binary, OK? ... etc ...

Hmmmm. Good idea! 


>And, lastly, I do realize that the above would be very costly. Not necessarily 
>to just implement into z/OS, but to actually change z/OS code to start using 
>it. And that may be the real killer.

"Backward compatibility"... is the murderer for that killing.


>I.e. if I invest a million dollars in something, I expect to get back 2 
>million in 6 months or less.

Why? I want it all for myself. I'll spare you so about 3 cents or so... ;-D


>Well, I guess that I've bored you enough with this bit of weirdness. Like many 
>of my ideas, they sound good to me until others point out that they are just 
>silly/stupid/unnecessary.

No. As usual you come with good ideas. I believe something good will come out 
if this and your past good ideas.

Keep it up!

Groete / Greetings
Elardus Engelbrecht

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