Thanks for your note.

I guess/hope that everybody pulls the latest HOLDDATA very frequently.

The "submitted" date of OA47338 is March 20th, 2015 - the very day this thread 
was started. The existence of the APAR was brought to my attention 5 days later 
(Thanks to Bob Rutledge). All in all, that was a comparatively rapid course of 
events.

I would think that the PE HOLDS for UA75869 and UA75875 showed up in the 
HOLDDATA on March 24th, 2015, at the latest, the "closed" date of OA47338.

Honestly, however, I do not remember having looked at the HOLDDATA during those 
five days in question. If «I was very busy.» serves an excuse, I take that 
exit. Besides, I could have lived without the "adventure" ... ;-)

But: Yes, to some extent, I tend to agree with the notion that there is NO 
«often enough» when it comes to HOLDDATA.

Regards,

Karl

-----Original Message-----
From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf 
Of J O Skip Robinson
Sent: Friday, March 27, 2015 2:00 AM
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: Intermittent, not consistently reproducible problems with PDSEs on 
z/OS V2R1 (incl. infrequent S0F4-20 RSN 1C0752EE ABENDs)

(Just picked off the last note in the thread.) I hate to leave this intriguing 
discussion without a stab at lessons learned. Given that the problem was 
finally solved and remediated through a PE APAR, there are a couple of actions 
that might have led to faster resolution.

1. Rigorously pull the latest and greatest HOLDDATA early and often. We just 
installed a V2R1 maintenance bundle that would otherwise have included the same 
PE PTF except that it was blocked by an ERROR hold. OP redid his entire 
maintenance cycle. I would have expected that effort to have succeeded if the 
latest HOLDDATA had been swished into the mix.

2. Even after the fact, there can be great value in an error sysmod report:
        SET BDY(GLOBAL  ) .
        REPORT ERRSYSMODS ZONES(MVST100) .
   Again, with the latest HOLDDATA tow, this report might have uncovered the 
bad boy with less agony than OP experienced.

On the other hand, we Listers would have missed out on a great adventure. ;-)

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J.O.Skip Robinson
Southern California Edison Company
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-----Original Message-----
From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf 
Of Tony Harminc
Sent: Thursday, March 26, 2015 8:10 AM
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: Intermittent, not consistently reproducible problems with PDSEs on 
z/OS V2R1 (incl. infrequent S0F4-20 RSN 1C0752EE ABENDs)

On 26 March 2015 at 08:06, Don Poitras <[email protected]> wrote:
> The special thanks should really go to Bob Rutledge. He's the one that
> pointed out the APAR. Tony just gave you a "public" url.

I was about to point that out. Thanks for doing it for me. :-)

Tony H.
basking in undeserved glory...

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