Thanks for your note, Bob. One can easily agree on the idea of pulling HOLDDATA (plus running ERRSYSMODS and MISSINGFIX reports) on a daily basis; it makes a lot of good sense.
Aside from that, however, the problem had initially occurred earlier, and I had already researched the matter for about a week - *before* I posted my question here. Once OA47338 had come into existence (maybe as a result of the question), everything was fine and good. The fact that I then missed it for 5 more days is my own fault, of course. As usual: Hindsight is 20/20. Regards Karl -----Original Message----- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] On Behalf Of Richards, Robert B. Sent: Friday, March 27, 2015 11:03 AM To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject: Re: Intermittent, not consistently reproducible problems with PDSEs on z/OS V2R1 (incl. infrequent S0F4-20 RSN 1C0752EE ABENDs) The PE HOLDs showed up on the 20th as well: ++HOLD(HDZ1D10) FMID(HDZ1D10) REASON(AA47338) ERROR DATE(15079) COMMENT(SMRTDATA(SYMP(DAL) CHGDT(150320))) CLASS(HIPER). ++HOLD(HDZ2210) FMID(HDZ2210) REASON(AA47338) ERROR DATE(15079) COMMENT(SMRTDATA(SYMP(DAL) CHGDT(150320))) CLASS(HIPER). ++HOLD(UA75869) FMID(HDZ1D10) REASON(AA47338) ERROR DATE(15079) COMMENT(SMRTDATA(CHGDT(150320))) CLASS(PE). ++HOLD(UA75875) FMID(HDZ2210) REASON(AA47338) ERROR DATE(15079) COMMENT(SMRTDATA(CHGDT(150320))) CLASS(PE). I second Skip's suggestion of pulling it on a daily basis. In addition to running the ERRSYSMODS report on a daily basis against all target zones, I also run a MISSINGFIX report. It has some different report columns that I like. Bob -----Original Message----- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] On Behalf Of Henn, Karl Sent: Friday, March 27, 2015 4:49 AM To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject: Re: Intermittent, not consistently reproducible problems with PDSEs on z/OS V2R1 (incl. infrequent S0F4-20 RSN 1C0752EE ABENDs) Thanks for your note. I guess/hope that everybody pulls the latest HOLDDATA very frequently. The "submitted" date of OA47338 is March 20th, 2015 - the very day this thread was started. The existence of the APAR was brought to my attention 5 days later (Thanks to Bob Rutledge). All in all, that was a comparatively rapid course of events. I would think that the PE HOLDS for UA75869 and UA75875 showed up in the HOLDDATA on March 24th, 2015, at the latest, the "closed" date of OA47338. Honestly, however, I do not remember having looked at the HOLDDATA during those five days in question. If «I was very busy.» serves an excuse, I take that exit. Besides, I could have lived without the "adventure" ... ;-) But: Yes, to some extent, I tend to agree with the notion that there is NO «often enough» when it comes to HOLDDATA. Regards, Karl -----Original Message----- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] On Behalf Of J O Skip Robinson Sent: Friday, March 27, 2015 2:00 AM To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject: Re: Intermittent, not consistently reproducible problems with PDSEs on z/OS V2R1 (incl. infrequent S0F4-20 RSN 1C0752EE ABENDs) (Just picked off the last note in the thread.) I hate to leave this intriguing discussion without a stab at lessons learned. Given that the problem was finally solved and remediated through a PE APAR, there are a couple of actions that might have led to faster resolution. 1. Rigorously pull the latest and greatest HOLDDATA early and often. We just installed a V2R1 maintenance bundle that would otherwise have included the same PE PTF except that it was blocked by an ERROR hold. OP redid his entire maintenance cycle. I would have expected that effort to have succeeded if the latest HOLDDATA had been swished into the mix. 2. Even after the fact, there can be great value in an error sysmod report: SET BDY(GLOBAL ) . REPORT ERRSYSMODS ZONES(MVST100) . Again, with the latest HOLDDATA tow, this report might have uncovered the bad boy with less agony than OP experienced. On the other hand, we Listers would have missed out on a great adventure. ;-) . . . J.O.Skip Robinson Southern California Edison Company Electric Dragon Team Paddler SHARE MVS Program Co-Manager 626-302-7535 Office 323-715-0595 Mobile jo.skip.robin...@sce.com -----Original Message----- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] On Behalf Of Tony Harminc Sent: Thursday, March 26, 2015 8:10 AM To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject: Re: Intermittent, not consistently reproducible problems with PDSEs on z/OS V2R1 (incl. infrequent S0F4-20 RSN 1C0752EE ABENDs) On 26 March 2015 at 08:06, Don Poitras <sas...@sas.com> wrote: > The special thanks should really go to Bob Rutledge. He's the one that > pointed out the APAR. Tony just gave you a "public" url. I was about to point that out. Thanks for doing it for me. :-) Tony H. basking in undeserved glory... ---------------------------------------------------------------------- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN ---------------------------------------------------------------------- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN ---------------------------------------------------------------------- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN ---------------------------------------------------------------------- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN
