Same here, and no problems at all.

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From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf 
Of Jousma, David
Sent: Wednesday, May 20, 2015 11:25 AM
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: z/OS Platform Software Products on ... Tape?

We've been doing ATTLS encrypted receive order's from IBM now for almost a 
year.   I don’t know how anyone can tamper with that?   As for connecting our 
mainframe systems to the "outside" world, we open a firewall connection as 
needed, and the connection to IBM can only be established FROM our systems.  
Cannot initiate the connection from the outside world coming in.

I feel pretty safe on both counts.

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-----Original Message-----
From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf 
Of Paul Gilmartin
Sent: Wednesday, May 20, 2015 10:29 AM
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: z/OS Platform Software Products on ... Tape?

On Mon, 11 May 2015 10:36:56 -0400, John Eells wrote:
>
>If you are still using tape for z/OS platform software delivery (that 
>is, any product that runs on z/OS, not just z/OS itself), I'd like to 
>hear from you to understand:
>
>- Why you choose tape for software delivery
> 
Some customers are fearful of network delivery.  I see two areas of concern:

o Merely connecting one's core IS engine to the Internet opens an avenue
  for tampering.  I have little to say on this.

o The installation package itself may have been corrupted en route.

In an SMP/E FROMNETWORK package a strong checksum of each component is compared 
to a value in GIMPAF.XML, and a checksum of GIMPAF.XML itself is compared to a 
value in the CLIENT data set.
But how is the CLIENT data set itself transmitted?  if it's via a channel 
comparable to that which carries the payload, then if Eve can counterfeit the 
latter she can as easily counterfeit the former.

RECEIVE FROMNTS is worse.  There is no CLIENT data set to carry the checksum.  
GIMPAF.XML has a suffix which contains a checksum of the preceding code, but 
this appears not to be verified:
I can intentionally corrupt it and SMP/E reports no error.  But verifying it 
would help little; it could be counterfeited as easily as any other part of the 
package.  I discover, with some reverse engineering, that I can verify the 
checksum of GIMPAF.XML with the script:

#! /bin/sh -x
# Doc: Verify SHA-1 hash for GIMPAF.XML

SMPCPATH=/usr/lpp/smp/classes      # (Customize.)
SMPJHOME=/usr/lpp/java/J6.0.1      # (Customize.)
PATH=${PATH:+$PATH:}$SMPJHOME/bin export PATH

echo "msgDigest file=\"GIMPAF.XML\" \
    startDelim=\"<PKGDEF\" endDelim=\"</PKGDEF>\"
terminate" |

java -cp "$SMPCPATH" com.ibm.smp.GIMJVCLT exit # ############################

Could that checksum be transferred via an independent secure channel and be 
verified, even by visual inspection?

-- gil

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