On Jul 7, 2015, at 10:37 AM, John Eells wrote:

That works for updating the procs themselves, and it's an outstanding precaution everyone should use as a matter of routine.

But it does not work so well for a volume failure, when a data set named in the proc is moved (and referenced by volser) or renamed, or when the concatenation limit is exceeded for one of the DD names after a change causes a data set to extend (I can hear TomC already, yelling, "but-but-but...don't *do* it that way to begin with!"), or...etc.

A TSO/E-only proc's purpose is to provide a way to recover (nearly) no matter *what* happens to the regular procs or the data sets named in them. With native TSO EDIT, you can list, alter, and save changes to the logon proc you really want to use. Or, you can edit the one you want to use to make it a batch job, save it in a new member, submit it, and use the OUTPUT command to read the output and locate the problem. You can do this in a standalone single- system environment, too, without NJE or FTP access.

Everyone should have one. Really. Even if you are sure you will never need it. Just because "can" beats "can't" when things go wrong.--------------------------snip-------------

In one of my experiences VTAM get up because of a lazy sysprog not double checking his work (left a comma off in the APF list).

I had to concoct a tso batch edit to put the comma in and save it then IPL'd
I think he was let go.

Ed

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