I get a screen that will allow me to override the in-use message.  Perhaps you 
don't have the authority you need.


Dan Blake


-----Original Message-----
From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf 
Of venkat kulkarni
Sent: Wednesday, July 22, 2015 10:26 AM
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: Library out of space issue while APPLY RSU

Hello Dan,
              This solution wont work because we are running system from 
primary RES volume and applying Maintenence on Alt RES volume and DDDEF also 
pointing to Alt RES volume dataset.

Now, When I tried renaming Alt volume dataset with .old extension, I am getting 
below error.

 ÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄ
 DSLIST - Data Sets on volume RESALT Data set in use

 Command - Enter "/" to select action                  Message
Volume
 -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
 R        SYS1.SASMMOD1
 RESALT
 ***************************** End of Data Set list
****************************


ÚÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄ¿
³ Data set 'SYS1.SASMMOD1' in use by another user, try later or enter HELP for 
³ ³ a list of jobs and users allocated to 'SYS1.SASMMOD1'.
    ³

Regards
Venkat

On Wed, Jul 22, 2015 at 7:31 PM, Blake, Daniel J [CTR] <[email protected]>
wrote:

> Been there, done that.  Yes the system has a reserve on the dataset 
> names.  However if you have the proper authority you can:
>
> 1.      Rename the files using IDCAMS or ISPF 3.4.  Make sure you rename,
> not delete them.
> 2.      Then allocate new, larger ones using *.NEW or something that fits
> your naming conventions as the LLQ.
> 3.      Uncatalog the *.NEW data sets.
> 4.      Rename the uncataloged data sets dropping the .NEW LLQ.
> 5.      Rerun your SMP/E jobs.
> 6.      Some point in time delete the old data sets from step 1.
>
> Note: I am assuming that SMP/E is pointing to your maintenance volume, 
> not your IPL volume.
>
>
> Dan
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:[email protected]] 
> On Behalf Of venkat kulkarni
> Sent: Wednesday, July 22, 2015 9:41 AM
> To: [email protected]
> Subject: Re: Library out of space issue while APPLY RSU
>
> Hello,
>         Thanks for reply. Yes, I am applying Maintenance not on 
> production system. Can you please  suggest on the issue I discussed before.
>
>
> Regards
> Venkat.
>
>
>
> On Wed, Jul 22, 2015 at 4:29 PM, Paul Gillis <[email protected] 
> <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:
>
> > Please do not tell me that you are applying maintenance to a running 
> > system. Because if you are then you have probably just destroyed 
> > your IPL volume.
> >
> > Cheers,
> > Paul Gillis
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List 
> > [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of venkat kulkarni
> > Sent: Wednesday, 22 July 2015 7:11 PM
> > To: [email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>
> > Subject: Library out of space issue while APPLY RSU
> >
> > Hello Group,
> >                   I am applying RSU on z/OS 1.13 system and 
> > encountered
> > D37-04 and E37-04 for various datasets like
> >
> > D37-04  SYS1.SASMMOD1  ---  is used by XCFAS , LLA,
> > D37-04  SYS1.SISPLOAD   ---  is used by XCFAS , LLA,
> > D37-04  SYS1.SGIMLMD0  ---  is used by XCFAS , LLA,
> > D37-04  SYS1.NUCLEUS   ---
> > D37-04  SYS1.LINKLIB       ---  is used by XCFAS , LLA,
> > E37-04  SYS1.CNMLINK   ---  is used by XCFAS , LLA, NETVIEW
> >
> >
> > Now, renaming the dataset to .old and then  create new dataset big 
> > big
> size
> > and then using ISPF option 3.3 for copy,   we have only option left is
> >
> > 1) Unallocate linkist (SETPROG LNKLST,UNALLOCATE) and then stop LLA 
> > ( P
> > LLA)
> >
> > 2) For CNMLINK dataset, I will have to stop NETVIEW as well along 
> > with Unallocate linkist (SETPROG LNKLST,UNALLOCATE) and then stop 
> > LLA ( P
> > LLA)
> >
> >
> > 3) But for NUCLEUS dataset, I will have to bring down alll system in 
> > sysplex and then do remaining and creating bigger dataet and then 
> > copy content using ISP 3.3
> >
> >
> >
> > Do we have any other way to overcome this issue rather then copping 
> > LLA and XCFAS etc.
> >
> >
> > Regards
> > Venkat
> >
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