This is the same issue discussed in the recent thread "Deleting data sets in use". Please (re)read the last few posts there. You need additional SAF authority in the FACILITY class to give you the option of renaming/deleting a data set that *appears* to be in use by virtue of DSN. It's caveat emptor, so be very careful how you do it. That's the near-term workaround.
For a long-term solution, I highly recommend doing business in a different way. You should not install maintenance directly to *either* of your 'working' sysres volumes. You should maintain a separate install-only set of sysres and HFS data sets. These should be named with high-level qualifier(s) unique to your SMPE environment, different from production and different from any other z/OS release you need to maintain. For example, ZOSR21 or ZOSR13. These will never be in use outside of your SMPE environment. When you're ready to IPL a new maintenance level, copy your install environment over the alternate sysres environment using production HLQs like SYS1. This is not a trivial change, but you'll be happier once you reach the goal. . . . J.O.Skip Robinson Southern California Edison Company Electric Dragon Team Paddler SHARE MVS Program Co-Manager 626-302-7535 Office 323-715-0595 Mobile [email protected] -----Original Message----- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of venkat kulkarni Sent: Wednesday, July 22, 2015 7:36 AM To: [email protected] Subject: Re: Library out of space issue while APPLY RSU I am working as UID 0 with all required authority. I don't see any issue with it. Still can you please suggest the authority required,So that I can cross verify. Regards Venkat On Wed, Jul 22, 2015 at 7:59 PM, Blake, Daniel J [CTR] <[email protected]> wrote: > I get a screen that will allow me to override the in-use message. > Perhaps you don't have the authority you need. > > > Dan Blake > > > -----Original Message----- > From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:[email protected]] > On Behalf Of venkat kulkarni > Sent: Wednesday, July 22, 2015 10:26 AM > To: [email protected] > Subject: Re: Library out of space issue while APPLY RSU > > Hello Dan, > This solution wont work because we are running system > from primary RES volume and applying Maintenence on Alt RES volume and > DDDEF also pointing to Alt RES volume dataset. > > Now, When I tried renaming Alt volume dataset with .old extension, I > am getting below error. > > > > ÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄ > ÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄ DSLIST - Data Sets on volume RESALT Data set in use > > Command - Enter "/" to select action Message > Volume > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- > R SYS1.SASMMOD1 > RESALT > ***************************** End of Data Set list > **************************** > > > > ÚÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄ > ÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄ¿ ³ Data set 'SYS1.SASMMOD1' in use by another user, try > later or enter HELP for ³ ³ a list of jobs and users allocated to > 'SYS1.SASMMOD1'. > ³ > > Regards > Venkat > > On Wed, Jul 22, 2015 at 7:31 PM, Blake, Daniel J [CTR] > <[email protected]> > wrote: > > > Been there, done that. Yes the system has a reserve on the dataset > > names. However if you have the proper authority you can: > > > > 1. Rename the files using IDCAMS or ISPF 3.4. Make sure you rename, > > not delete them. > > 2. Then allocate new, larger ones using *.NEW or something that fits > > your naming conventions as the LLQ. > > 3. Uncatalog the *.NEW data sets. > > 4. Rename the uncataloged data sets dropping the .NEW LLQ. > > 5. Rerun your SMP/E jobs. > > 6. Some point in time delete the old data sets from step 1. > > > > Note: I am assuming that SMP/E is pointing to your maintenance > > volume, not your IPL volume. > > > > > > Dan > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List > > [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of venkat kulkarni > > Sent: Wednesday, July 22, 2015 9:41 AM > > To: [email protected] > > Subject: Re: Library out of space issue while APPLY RSU > > > > Hello, > > Thanks for reply. Yes, I am applying Maintenance not on > > production system. Can you please suggest on the issue I discussed > before. > > > > > > Regards > > Venkat. > > > > > > > > On Wed, Jul 22, 2015 at 4:29 PM, Paul Gillis <[email protected] > > <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote: > > > > > Please do not tell me that you are applying maintenance to a > > > running system. Because if you are then you have probably just > > > destroyed your IPL volume. > > > > > > Cheers, > > > Paul Gillis > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > > From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List > > > [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of venkat kulkarni > > > Sent: Wednesday, 22 July 2015 7:11 PM > > > To: [email protected]<mailto:[email protected]> > > > Subject: Library out of space issue while APPLY RSU > > > > > > Hello Group, > > > I am applying RSU on z/OS 1.13 system and > > > encountered > > > D37-04 and E37-04 for various datasets like > > > > > > D37-04 SYS1.SASMMOD1 --- is used by XCFAS , LLA, > > > D37-04 SYS1.SISPLOAD --- is used by XCFAS , LLA, > > > D37-04 SYS1.SGIMLMD0 --- is used by XCFAS , LLA, > > > D37-04 SYS1.NUCLEUS --- > > > D37-04 SYS1.LINKLIB --- is used by XCFAS , LLA, > > > E37-04 SYS1.CNMLINK --- is used by XCFAS , LLA, NETVIEW > > > > > > > > > Now, renaming the dataset to .old and then create new dataset big > > > big > > size > > > and then using ISPF option 3.3 for copy, we have only option left is > > > > > > 1) Unallocate linkist (SETPROG LNKLST,UNALLOCATE) and then stop > > > LLA ( P > > > LLA) > > > > > > 2) For CNMLINK dataset, I will have to stop NETVIEW as well along > > > with Unallocate linkist (SETPROG LNKLST,UNALLOCATE) and then stop > > > LLA ( P > > > LLA) > > > > > > > > > 3) But for NUCLEUS dataset, I will have to bring down alll system > > > in sysplex and then do remaining and creating bigger dataet and > > > then copy content using ISP 3.3 > > > > > > > > > > > > Do we have any other way to overcome this issue rather then > > > copping LLA and XCFAS etc. > > > > > > > > > Regards > > > Venkat ---------------------------------------------------------------------- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [email protected] with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN
