The z14 should be about ready to announce by then. On Tue, Jul 28, 2015 at 6:04 PM, Gibney, David Allen,Jr <[email protected]> wrote: > I agree with you and Ed and others. Actually, about a year ago, maybe 18 > months, the pre-paid maintenance plus software savings would have outright > covered the cost of a z12. > > Unfortunately, there were (and are) political issues and also multiple > flavors of money issues. z/OS Software is paid with one flavor, which is > apparently doesn't taste right when applied to hardware acquisitions. > > I make the argument every now and then. New CIO coming on board soon. I'll > probably get another chance, but I suspect we'll stretch the z9 until we are > forced to move in the spring of 2017. On the plus side, the BC z13 out to be > coming out or even dropping in price by then. > >> -----Original Message----- >> From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:[email protected]] >> On Behalf Of Cheryl Watson >> Sent: Tuesday, July 28, 2015 2:57 PM >> To: [email protected] >> Subject: Re: z/OS 2.2 announcement >> >> Another reason to move to a newer processor is the reduction on software >> prices. Even if you had to pay double maintenance for a while, and I agree >> with Ed that you wouldn't need to, the software savings from moving from a >> z9 to a zBC12 or baby z13 would more than make up for it. I can give you an >> estimate in savings if you contact me offlist. >> >> Best regards, >> Cheryl >> >> >> Cheryl Watson >> Watson & Walker, Inc. >> 100 Central Ave, Suite 1013 >> Sarasota, FL 34236 >> P-941-924-6565, F-941-924-4892 >> www.watsonwalker.com >> >> >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:[email protected]] >> On Behalf Of Ed Jaffe >> Sent: Tuesday, July 28, 2015 5:52 PM >> To: [email protected] >> Subject: Re: z/OS 2.2 announcement >> >> On 7/28/2015 2:17 PM, Mike Schwab wrote: >> > Maybe they would apply the balance toward an earlier purchase? >> >> In my experience. they will do exactly that. We have *never* had a problem >> getting credited for remaining time on an existing pre-paid IBM CPU, DASD or >> Tape maintenance contract as part of a technology uplift. >> >> Upgrading a z9BC -- skipping over z10 and z114 -- to zBC12 will provide a >> nice >> performance boost, especially if you are heavily kneecapped and choose to >> install one or more zIIP processors. You get a warranty with a new machine, >> so any extra maintenance dollars are applied to maintenance that kicks in >> after the warranty expires. >> >> Given that it's been ~7 months since the z13 announcement, and the zEC12 >> and zBC12 announcements were ~11 months apart, it might be worth waiting >> on a hardware upgrade until the single-frame z13s are announced. IBM has >> priced initial memory configurations on z13s so attractively, that many >> installations have been able to justify purchasing 5x to 10x the memory they >> previously had! There's no reason not to expect similar price breaks for >> memory on the single-frame models. And, we all know that memory-rich >> environments scream!!! >> >> > On Tue, Jul 28, 2015 at 4:10 PM, Gibney, David Allen,Jr <[email protected]> >> wrote: >> >> Looks nice, won't run on my z9. I just spent awhile trying to find the >> definitive statement as to what date z/OS 2.1 will be withdrawn from Shopz >> availability. Couldn't find it. Can someone tell me what that date is? >> >> >> >> I am currently running 1.13, plan to upgrade to 2.1 before it goes >> >> out of service next year. HW maintnenace is pre-paid on the z9 until >> >> June 2017 >> >> >> >> -- >> Edward E Jaffe >> Phoenix Software International, Inc >> 831 Parkview Drive North >> El Segundo, CA 90245 >> https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v1/url?u=http://www.phoenixsoftware.com >> /&k=EWEYHnIvm0nsSxnW5y9VIw%3D%3D%0A&r=j6Xa1Y0fbuP2mfgCQ5Zxhg >> %3D%3D%0A&m=KutiC3zwnSwwCw9QmKIAmxj1I81vAZ3DQ6l2lEjjcN4%3D%0 >> A&s=cb56582f226cdb84fd9bd1d2a92297ec1d2681bf4c7d88c9e6be24255131f >> 510 >> >> ---------------------------------------------------------------------- >> For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to >> [email protected] with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN >> >> ---------------------------------------------------------------------- >> For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to >> [email protected] with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, > send email to [email protected] with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN
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