The 370/165 and 168 ran on high frequency power.  400 or 420 HZ if I remember 
correctly.  There may be others, but I worked with those.  We had MG sets in 
sound proof enclosures.  If you opened the covers you had better have sound 
proof ear muffs on.  They were LOUD.  Eh, what did you say?

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Most old pre-solid-state aircraft electronics also used 415 Hz because 
transformers are much lighter at higher frequency.

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From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] On Behalf 
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Sent: Wednesday, July 29, 2015 12:57 PM
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Subject: Re: 1403 at 60Hz

> As I understood it at the time, larger S/360 and S/370 also used
> motor-generator power supplies, though I don't know the output
> frequency.  The higher frequency means less filtering.

Generally 415 Hz. Why this odd number is beyond me. The Hitachi clones also 
used 415 Hz.

> But yes, you can run a CDC machine off an electronic converter.

Most CDC Cybers are indeed 400 Hz machines, but a few were made with a
60 Hz option. Last week I drove to Texas to get a "small"
"departmental" Cyber 932 - they were all (or nearly all?) 60 Hz models.

--
Will

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