Just be sure you don't let catalog replication resume while the catalog is open 
on the second system. Much carnage will ensue.

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.
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J.O.Skip Robinson
Southern California Edison Company
Electric Dragon Team Paddler 
SHARE MVS Program Co-Manager
626-302-7535 Office
323-715-0595 Mobile
[email protected]

-----Original Message-----
From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf 
Of Lizette Koehler
Sent: Wednesday, November 25, 2015 11:59 AM
To: [email protected]
Subject: (External):Re: User Cats and Replication Sites

To try and answer the question : Why do this?

If you do normal dumps/unloads of production data and ship it to your 
DEV/QA/Lifecycle environment - you might use productions like NDM, FTP, 
IND$FILE, etc... slow and dependent on your IP traffic or pipes.  Or you might 
dump to tapes and either mail physical tape or have your tape environment use 
its own replication process.

With Replication you could land your data needed in the lifecycle environment 
and use the speed of Replication.  So, just pushing the data to a new location 
faster.

Skip - This is what I was thinking.  I tend to over think, so this is very 
helpful.

Thanks all very much

Lizette


> -----Original Message-----
> From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:[email protected]] 
> On Behalf Of J O Skip Robinson
> Sent: Wednesday, November 25, 2015 11:09 AM
> To: [email protected]
> Subject: Re: User Cats and Replication Sites
> 
> (Reposting with edited subject. Sorry that I forget to massage it so 
> often.)
> 
> In order to make a 'foreign' catalog available, I don't believe you 
> DEFINE
RECAT
> because the catalog already exists. IMPORT CONNECT (whereby you name 
> the
> volume) creates all the necessary pointers in the current system's 
> master
catalog.
> Furthermore, IMPORT CONNECT does not require that the catalog be 
> physically accessible. CATALOG task does not attempt to access the 
> catalog until you
perform
> some action that requires opening it, such as LIST. If the catalog is
available, the
> catalog is opened and the action completes. Otherwise you get a 
> catalog open error. I'm basing these observations on experience with 
> making various master catalogs available to each other, which we do a 
> lot. The foreign catalog
becomes a
> 'user catalog' in the current master regardless of its status in the 
> foreign
system.
> 
> So in the steps you propose, eliminate 3. Step 4 can be done at any 
> time even
if the
> volume is (still) offline; even now. Assuming that you IMPORT CONNECT 
> ahead of time, you're left with 1, 2, and 5. As for aliases--if you 
> want them--you can
DEFINE
> ALIAS at any time after IMPORT CONNECT.
> 
> .
> .
> .
> J.O.Skip Robinson
> Southern California Edison Company
> Electric Dragon Team Paddler
> SHARE MVS Program Co-Manager
> 626-302-7535 Office
> 323-715-0595 Mobile
> [email protected]
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:[email protected]] 
> On Behalf Of R.S.
> Sent: Wednesday, November 25, 2015 2:33 AM
> To: [email protected]
> Subject: (External):Re: User Cats and Replication Sites
> 
> As far as I udnerstand you replicate UCAT, but cataloged datasets 
> (volumes
with
> datasets).
> I don't see any value in such approach. What's your goal?
> 
> Note: it could worth to consider to replicate a set of datasets and UCAT.
> 
> --
> Radoslaw Skorupka
> Lodz, Poland
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> W dniu 2015-11-24 o 23:24, Lizette Koehler pisze:
> > I have two sites, A and B
> >
> > A usercat is replicated (asynchronously) from Site A to Site B (one 
> > way trip) The volumes are offline in SITE B and ONLINE in SITE A
> >
> > I want to use that usercat on Site B at some point.
> >
> > So my plan is to
> > 1) Break Replication
> > 2) Vary the replication Volumes online to Site B
> > 3) Define  RECAT the USERCAT
> > 4) Connect the UCAT to my MCAT on SITE B using IMPORT CONNECT.
> > 5) Then access the files and VSAM datasets on SITE B through the 
> > replicated UCAT.
> >
> > I am fairly comfortable with an IMPORT CONNECT, but was wondering if 
> > there were other steps other than ensuring the aliases from Site A 
> > to this UCAT are available/installed/defined in Site B.
> >
> >
> > Anything I need to be concerned about?
> >
> > I have discussed a couple of ideas with my team, but wanted to see 
> > if there was any other wisdom in this group that might help me make this 
> > right.
> >
> > Thanks
> >
> >
> > Lizette Koehler
> 
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