This looks like a great idea. Not sure how it might impact or be impacted by 
XRC, but it would be worth a look. Can't tell you how much grief we went 
through after usercats began dropping like flies. Fortunately it was DEV and 
not PROD, but lots of folks had their work disrupted for days on end. ;-( 

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J.O.Skip Robinson
Southern California Edison Company
Electric Dragon Team Paddler 
SHARE MVS Program Co-Manager
626-302-7535 Office
323-715-0595 Mobile
[email protected]

-----Original Message-----
From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf 
Of Ron Hawkins
Sent: Wednesday, December 02, 2015 3:45 AM
To: [email protected]
Subject: (External):Re: User Cats and Replication Sites

Skip,

Is there a case here for taking regular snapshots of your UCATs and other small 
critical datasets?

Using persistent FlashCopy the UCATs or their volumes could be copied every 
hour and retained for quick receovery.

30 days' worth of hourly copies of a 1000 Cyl UCAT would use less than 1GB of 
space. Persistent FC would give you a good backup in both sites.

Ron



-----Original Message-----
From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf 
Of J O Skip Robinson
Sent: Sunday, November 29, 2015 11:55 AM
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: [IBM-MAIN] User Cats and Replication Sites

Touche. We had a near catastrophic catalog problem some time back. Of course 
the replicated copy faithfully mirrored the errors, which were procedural 
rather than structural--tons of vital data deleted by mistake. Still I value 
mirroring for the classic case of disaster recovery: the production data center 
suddenly goes offline and cannot be resuscitated within an acceptable window. 
Mirrored DR allows you get up and running quickly, warts and all.

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J.O.Skip Robinson
Southern California Edison Company
Electric Dragon Team Paddler
SHARE MVS Program Co-Manager
626-302-7535 Office
323-715-0595 Mobile
[email protected]

-----Original Message-----
From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf 
Of Shane Ginnane
Sent: Wednesday, November 25, 2015 2:55 PM
To: [email protected]
Subject: (External):Re: User Cats and Replication Sites

On Wed, 25 Nov 2015 20:53:09 +0000, J O Skip Robinson wrote:

>Nothing beats replication, the more the better. 

Hmmm - unless you happen to have a critical error in the source. Replicating 
that quietly everywhere can leave you with non-IPLable systems *everywhere*.
Which you may not find out about until you try an IPL.
And yes, it has happened - LE bug that broke MCAT access for example; ran fine 
till IPL.
Brings to mind the "Schrodingers backup" discussion a few months back.

Shane ...


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