On Feb 26, 2016, at 10:21 AM, Sankaranarayanan, Vignesh wrote:

@Ed,
"Then have your employer pop for education because that is how *WE* did it." Do you even understand how outsourcing companies stay alive. Nay, thrive? I agree, I haven't contributed much (anything?) to the community, but I once did offer a REXX I wrote to which I heard nothing but crickets. Maybe it was something only I needed and its implementation was way too specific to my environment.
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I certainly do know they work. I left a company and about 1 year later they were outsourced first to INDIA then to IBM (there may have been an intermediate outsourcer I lost track). I have friends who stayed and to the one they left bitter and everyone said they should have taken the buyout. Jobs here in the states are scare to non existent. I was once unemployed for 6 months and yes it was extremely tough. The only nibble I got was from company that IBM used for Level 2 DFHSM and it was 2/3 a continent away and I had to pay for all transportation and for less money than I was making. I refused it and went with a local (I use that in loose terms) and not six months after I joined them they relocated to a semi southern state and *NO* one went.

BTW its tough that you are on the receiving end of outsourcing but I have little sympathy as the employer is still screwing its employees. Happy that the pain is felt all around. The cost for education is never cheap nor is travel to SHARE. But as I have said before if you think its worth it then spring for yourself. THAT IS WHAT I DID.

I personally got a lot of the SHARE/GUIDE sessions especially when I was chair of a committee. That took perseverance and the willingness to travel at my employers expense and at mine. If you want to go get a business case for it, that is what I did (sometimes). BTW there are people on here that are experts in REXX and can truly write easy to understand execs. Take a look at those and you will see elegant writing of execs. That is worth at least one trip to SHARE by itself (and its free).
Sometimes its better to sit back and absorb.

Ed

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