I'd still like to know how this works.  What's in your master cat?  What's
in your sysres cat?
Ken

On Tue, Nov 22, 2016 at 11:28 AM, van der Grijn, Bart (B) <
bvandergr...@dow.com> wrote:

> We run two sysplexes of about 12 LPARs each (NonProd vs Prod). Both plexes
> have a single mcat shared across the plex (but not between plexes). We've
> upgraded these from release to release over the last 10 years and never had
> to use a second master catalog. In fact, I just checked our NonProd mcat
> and it was created on 2007.005.
> We use a single SYSRES with its own catalog, which resides on the SYSRES.
> The SYSRES is swapped every month for a new one, which is how we introduce
> maintenance, or even upgrades.
>
> I've seen no down sides to a single mcat for our setup, but as others have
> noted, it will depend on the role of each system in the plex. For our setup
> all LPARs serve the same purpose, just for different application instances.
>
> Bart
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] On
> Behalf Of Allan Staller
> Sent: Tuesday, November 22, 2016 8:59 AM
> To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU
> Subject: Re: Catalogs in a SYSPLEX
>
> " Prior to this job I worked at a shop where we supported sysplexes from a
> single system to up to 10 LPARs in a single sysplex.  The master catalogs
> were not shared , I think I would put forth one big reason for not sharing
> the master catalog, would be system upgrades, when we went through the z/OS
> upgrades, there were times where SYS1. Level data sets location changed
> from one release to the next and the catalog needed to point to the new
> location for the new release.  We would upgrade one LPAR at a time in a
> sysplex, which was once a week, so it would be several weeks to complete a
> sysplex."
>
> This is a non-starter. As far as I am concerned, everything that can be
> shared should be shared (Two of anything that do not agree worse than
> nothing). If you go with separate MCATS, you must spend a great deal of
> time ensuring they are in sync w/each other.
>
> Sure, you need multiple MCATs during the upgrade cycle, but when all is
> done, there should be only one MCAT
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] On
> Behalf Of Nims,Alva John (Al)
> Sent: Monday, November 21, 2016 3:44 PM
> To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU
> Subject: Re: Catalogs in a SYSPLEX
>
> We currently have a 2 LPAR sysplex and the master catalog in not shared.
> Prior to this job I worked at a shop where we supported sysplexes from a
> single system to up to 10 LPARs in a single sysplex.  The master catalogs
> were not shared , I think I would put forth one big reason for not sharing
> the master catalog, would be system upgrades, when we went through the z/OS
> upgrades, there were times where SYS1. Level data sets location changed
> from one release to the next and the catalog needed to point to the new
> location for the new release.  We would upgrade one LPAR at a time in a
> sysplex, which was once a week, so it would be several weeks to complete a
> sysplex.
>
> I think there are a lot of questions you have to ask yourself about how
> you are going to handle the sysplex and what you are going to keep in the
> master catalog, besides SYS1.  Note: I believe System Symbols are your
> friend when setting up the catalog, for both data set names and VOLSER.
>
>
> Al Nims
> Systems Admin/Programmer 3
> UFIT
> University of Florida
> (352) 273-1298
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] On
> Behalf Of Travis
> Sent: Monday, November 21, 2016 3:54 PM
> To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU
> Subject: Catalogs in a SYSPLEX
>
> We are creating a SYSPLEX of two systems and there seems to be some debate
> about using a single shared master catalog or multiple master catalogs on
> each system. The IBM manuals recommend a single shared master catalog but
> our CE has been advocating multiple catalogs. What are the pros and cons of
> running each? We have two identical systems in the PLEX and for right now
> there is no plan to add more, however that could change at any time in the
> near future.
>
>
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