Can you help me better understand exactly what experience you expect regarding documentation for HLASM and other such products? Right now, we do list it in our TOC and provide a direct link to the product documentation from that page ( https://www.ibm.com/support/knowledgecenter/SSLTBW_2.2.0/com.ibm.zos.v2r2.asm/asm.htm ). Doesn't that count as "so-and-so can help you with that -- here, let me transfer you.", at least to the same extent as any other element-level link in the KC? Or, to satisfy that request, are you instead expecting to see the HLASM content somehow mirrored in the z/OS KC?

(BTW, Gil, you'll notice that I added extra spaces around the URL above... I do that for other punctuation but didn't realize I needed to for parens, as well. Thanks for the tip!)

On 02/18/17 12:21 PM, Charles Mills wrote:
It's laudable that HLASM is maintained uniformly across all supported
platforms, apparently from a single source.
It's deplorable that something as intrinsic to z/OS operations will no
longer be cited in the z/OS documentation

It's making the customer accommodate the provider's internal organization,
which is an utter customer service and satisfaction no-no. It's like when
you call some 800 number and they tell you "oh, you have to call this other
800 number instead." I prohibited my people from ever saying "I can't help
you -- you'll have to call so-and-so" but told them rather to say "so-and-so
can help you with that -- here, let me transfer you."

Charles

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On 2017-02-18, at 09:03, Allan Staller wrote:

Refrain: the "new tools" are neither as reliable, available, accessible,
or functional as the items they are replacing!

p>
Re: your complaint of the day, I did some investigation. We moved the
HLASM documentation out of the z/OS V2R2 KC and now instead point to the
HLASM KC (https://www.ibm.com/support/knowledgecenter/SSENW6). This is to
prevent duplication, etc. However, while evidence of the HLASM documentation
was removed from the z/OS V2R2 KC TOC, it seems that the topics themselves
are still floating around in our KC.

All I can say is: ignore them until they're properly removed. For current
HLASM documentation, instead go to the HLASM KC. I'm sorry that this means
that the release drop-down that you like so much is useless in this case,
but at least you can successfully enjoy it with most other elements!
</snip>

Conway's Law: http://www.melconway.com/Home/Conways_Law.html

    Any organization that designs a system (defined broadly)
    will produce a design whose structure is a copy of the
    organization's communication structure.

It's laudable that HLASM is maintained uniformly across all supported
platforms, apparently from a single source.

It's deplorable that something as intrinsic to z/OS operations will no
longer be cited in the z/OS documentation.  A link to the HLASM root ToC
should continue to appear as an item in the z/OS ToC.  There's a failure to
communicate here.

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