[email protected] (Phil Smith) writes: > Ah, UTS. Forgot that one! DPPX/370 is its own thing; sounds like BOS > and TOS, and ?maybe RTOS? should go in the VSE bucket, no? TSS, yeah, > forgot that one, too!
re: http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2017d.html#75 Mainframe operating system? After Houston, many of the HASP went to gburg group to do HASP->JES2, however one of the HASP people to Harrison and did RASP (sort of a virtual memory MFT II) ... mentioned in this discssuion about decision to make all 370s virtual memory http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2011d.html#73 as mentioned, RASP lost out, he leaves and becomes a Amdahl "Fellow" and redoes (clean room) RASP (at one point IBM sues even tho IBM wouldn't doing anything with it, IBM code review only finds a couple lines similar that have to be redone). There is unsuccesful effort to convince IBM to hire univ. student that did 370 UNIX port ... and he goes with Amdahl doing what becomes UTS (original code name "gold" ... for "AU" ... amdahl unix). TSS/370 group is still lingering on and they get involved with AT&T effort to do 370 unix. Rather than doing a straight unix port to 370, they do a stripped down TSS/370 "SSP" that handles all the low level 370 hardware & device gorp ... with higher levels of UNIX layered on top. At monthly user group "BAYBUNCH" meetings in silicon valley, some of the Amdahl people like telling stories of what is going on. For awhile there is a bottle going on between RASP-redo group and the GOLD group. I recommend why don't they try a merge like the TSS/360 SSP for AT&T unix. Another 370 operating system is GNOSIS a 370 operating system done by TYMSHARE specifically targeted at online service bureau operation ... https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/GNOSIS i've mentioned being brought into audit/review GNOSIS for its spinoff after M/D buys TYMSHARE. ... after spinoff, they do some optimization and redo some ACP/TPF applications and show them running faster in KeyKOS that originals did in ACP/TPF (on same hardware) recent posts mentioning GNOSIS: http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2017.html#28 {wtf} Tymshare SuperBasic Source Code http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2017.html#100 Trump to sign cyber security order http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2017b.html#59 The ICL 2900 http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2017c.html#60 [EXTERNAL] ComputerWorld Says: Cobol plays major role in U.S. government breaches http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2017d.html#41 What are mainframes past posts mentioning TSS/370 stripped down supervisor SSUP (for AT&T unix implementation): http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2007m.html#69 Operating systems are old and busted http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2010e.html#17 Senior Java Developer vs. MVS Systems Programmer (warning: Conley rant) http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2010h.html#61 (slightly OT - Linux) Did IBM bet on the wrong OS? http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2010i.html#44 someone smarter than Dave Cutler http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2010l.html#2 TSS (Transaction Security System) http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2010o.html#0 Hashing for DISTINCT or GROUP BY in SQL http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2011.html#73 Speed of Old Hard Disks - adcons http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2011.html#96 History of copy on write http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2011f.html#85 SV: USS vs USS http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2012.html#67 Has anyone successfully migrated off mainframes? http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2012f.html#28 which one came first http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2012o.html#34 Regarding Time Sharing http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2013n.html#24 Aging Sysprogs = Aging Farmers http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2013n.html#92 'Free Unix!': The world-changing proclamation made30yearsagotoday http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2014f.html#74 Is end of mainframe near ? http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2014j.html#17 The SDS 92, its place in history? http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2017.html#20 {wtf} Tymshare SuperBasic Source Code past pasts mentioning RASP: http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2000f.html#68 TSS ancient history, was X86 ultimate CISC? designs) http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2000f.html#69 TSS ancient history, was X86 ultimate CISC? designs) http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2000f.html#70 TSS ancient history, was X86 ultimate CISC? designs) http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2001b.html#73 7090 vs. 7094 etc. http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2002g.html#0 Blade architectures http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2002i.html#63 Hercules and System/390 - do we need it? http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2002j.html#75 30th b'day http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2002q.html#31 Collating on the S/360-2540 card reader? http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2003e.html#65 801 (was Re: Reviving Multics http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2005p.html#44 hasp, jes, rasp, aspen, gold http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2006f.html#19 Over my head in a JES exit http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2006w.html#24 IBM sues maker of Intel-based Mainframe clones http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2006w.html#28 IBM sues maker of Intel-based Mainframe clones http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2007m.html#69 Operating systems are old and busted http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2010i.html#44 someone smarter than Dave Cutler http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2010o.html#0 Hashing for DISTINCT or GROUP BY in SQL http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2010p.html#42 Which non-IBM software products (from ISVs) have been most significant to the mainframe's success? http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2011.html#85 Two terrific writers .. are going to write a book http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2011d.html#73 Multiple Virtual Memory http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2011e.html#26 Multiple Virtual Memory http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2011e.html#47 junking CKD; was "Social Security Confronts IT Obsolescence" http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2012.html#67 Has anyone successfully migrated off mainframes? http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2012.html#69 Has anyone successfully migrated off mainframes? http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2012d.html#33 TINC? http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2012f.html#78 What are you experiences with Amdahl Computers and Plug-Compatibles? http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2013i.html#47 Making mainframe technology hip again http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2013m.html#51 50,000 x86 operating system on single mainframe http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2013n.html#24 Aging Sysprogs = Aging Farmers http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2013n.html#92 'Free Unix!': The world-changing proclamation made30yearsagotoday http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2014i.html#66 z/OS physical memory usage with multiple copies of same load module at different virtual addresses http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2014i.html#68 z/OS physical memory usage with multiple copies of same load module at different virtual addresses http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2016h.html#101 Multitasking question -- virtualization experience starting Jan1968, online at home since Mar1970 ---------------------------------------------------------------------- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [email protected] with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN
