trivia from long ago and far away, gone 404, but lives on
at the way back machine:
http://web.archive.org/web/20090117083033/http://www.nsa.gov/research/selinux/list-archive/0409/8362.shtml

I didn't learn about them until much later. As undergraduate did lots of
work on IBM software and I would even get requests from IBM for
enhancements ... in retrospect, some of the requests may have originated
from these guys.

ibmmain post from march about learning that there were three kinds of
crypto around the mid-80s.
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2017c.html#69 ComputerWorld Says: Cobol plays major 
role in U.S. government breaches
also referenced in this more recent post
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2017e.html#58 A flaw in the design; The Internet's 
founders saw its promise but didn't foresee users attacking one another

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