Beverly, Not surprising, a lot of manglers don't have a clue what a real systems programmer does or know. Especially those who only know Windoze...
I have z/OS customers who can't install simple software without us holding their hand and doing there work for them. Sorry for the rant, been a day. Scott On Thu, Oct 5, 2017 at 1:21 PM william janulin < 0000008d52e04f2e-dmarc-requ...@listserv.ua.edu> wrote: > What goes around comes around. > > > On Thursday, October 5, 2017 11:50 AM, "Savor, Thomas (Alpharetta)" < > thomas.sa...@fiserv.com> wrote: > > > As an "Assembler" guy.....that's great news !!!!! > > Thanks, > > Tom Savor > > > -----Original Message----- > From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] On > Behalf Of Beverly Caldwell > Sent: Thursday, October 05, 2017 11:47 AM > To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU > Subject: Here's a horrifying thought for all you management types.... > > From an IBM red book, the one which describes Walmart’s adventures with > CICS in a cloud. > > From the section which describes the activities of the CICS and z/OS > systems programmers: > > > “The traditional role of systems programmers over time became focused on > system administration functions. But, to extend the capabilities of CICS, > the old-school, multi-role technician must reemerge and embrace the latest > technologies” > > > Well some of us never actually went away. > > > But wait, there’s more. It gets worse. Further on in the same article > there’s talk of: > > “Selecting HLASM and COBOL as service development languages.” > > Programming, Jim? *Assembler* language programming? I don’t think we need > any of *that* here. > > > What I would like to know is where were all the managers while all this > programming was going on. Does Walmart have the most enlightened managers > in the mainframe world or did they just not have a clue what was going on. > I suspect the latter, it’s unlikely Walmart’s managers are any different > from anyone else’s. > > > A very interesting red book with lots of detailed information although I > kept seeing the word 'service'. Not a word one would normally associate > with Walmart. > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email > to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, > send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN > > > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, > send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN > -- Scott Ford IDMWORKS z/OS Development ---------------------------------------------------------------------- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN
