TDMF does include a logical data mover.  When a database is closed it
will swap over.  During shutdown for an IPL it should get the
remaining datasets.
If your new dasd allows dynamic growing a volume, you can grow a
non-EAV to the maximum EAV volume size, but no bigger.

On Sat, Jan 6, 2018 at 1:43 PM, Feller, Paul
<[email protected]> wrote:
> Using FDRPAS or TDMF to go from smaller volumes to larger volumes will take 
> you only so far.  You can move one MOD3 to one MOD9 (or MOD whatever).  After 
> that you have to move datasets.  I know there is another FDR product that 
> will help move datasets, but even that has limitations.  Naturally you could 
> use SMS to help by disabling new allocations to the MOD3 and over time things 
> may move as datasets are reallocated.  At some point you will have to have 
> subsystems down (or lpars down) to move datasets.
>
> As we have swapped out DASD subsystems we have gone through the pain of 
> eliminating as many MOD3 volumes as we could.  There came a point when we had 
> to get business unit approval to take things like CICS or DB2 or IMS or MQ or 
> even whole lpars down to move datasets.
>
> Thanks..
>
> Paul Feller
> AGT Mainframe Technical Support
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:[email protected]] On 
> Behalf Of Ed Jaffe
> Sent: Friday, January 05, 2018 21:39
> To: [email protected]
> Subject: Re: Accessing 65536 devices
>
> On 1/5/2018 12:06 PM, John Eells wrote:
>> Ward, Mike S wrote:
>>> Innovation has a product called FDRPAS that can be rented that does
>>> the copies while the system is up and running. We have used it
>>> several times and it works great.
>> <snip>
>>
>> I have no experience with FDRPAS or its IBM counterparts (like TDMF,
>> if I recall correctly).  However, unless they are able to talk to
>> devices in subchannel sets other than SCS0, none would solve Skip's
>> problem.
>
> Yes, they would! What Skip should do is upgrade from whatever ancient
> DASD configuration has been carried forward at SCE for decades to
> modern, 21st-century DASD geometries. FDRPAS and similar products will
> help him do that seamlessly. Even being past the half-way point on UCB
> count won't be an issue if he consolidates his mod-3 DASD pools to
> mod-27s, which are nine times larger. Even an extremely-conservative
> conversion to (still quite ancient) mod-9s can cut the device address
> footprint by 2/3!
>
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