And according to this link from that page: https://www.ibm.com/us-en/marketplace/z-systems-development-test-environment
"Develop and test mainframe applications on x86 hardware Starting at $4,920.00 USD per year" Still not hobbyist pricing, and still somewhat steep on a per-programmer basis for a company to pay, and large development teams (100+) would make that a relatively high-cost tool. I would presume that a good discount to that "list price" could be negotiated by an organization with an existing substantial investment in real IBM iron and software, but small organizations and hobbyists are still SOL. Peter -----Original Message----- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of ITschak Mugzach Sent: Saturday, January 13, 2018 9:19 AM To: [email protected] Subject: Re: IBM ZD&T EXTERNAL: This email originated from outside of Broadridge. Do not click any links or open any attachments unless you trust the sender and know the content is safe. acrording to this page ( https://developer.ibm.com/mainframe/2017/09/08/ibm-z-systems-development-test-environment-zdt-v11-available/) this is same as zPDT. We use zPDT top develop out IronSphere ISCM for legacy platform, but zPDT, afaik, is for members of the partner in development program. It look like zd&t is for everyone. ITschak On Fri, Jan 12, 2018 at 8:02 PM, Jousma, David <[email protected]> wrote: > If you are not aware, this is z/OS running on x86 for dev/test work. > Anyone doing this in the real world? We've got architects in the > corporation that head about this, and want to discuss it. I just don't > know enough about it to know if it's a big deal, or a breadbox with regards > to building and supporting. > > My concerns: > - are how to support > - is it an identical image of standard lpars on Z? > - security > - etc, etc, etc. > > I did a few searches on google looking for a past SHARE presentation for a > 10,000' view. To my uneducated self, it sounds like an easy way for > management to defer mainframe cpu costs, but at a huge support cost. Am I > wrong? -- This message and any attachments are intended only for the use of the addressee and may contain information that is privileged and confidential. If the reader of the message is not the intended recipient or an authorized representative of the intended recipient, you are hereby notified that any dissemination of this communication is strictly prohibited. If you have received this communication in error, please notify us immediately by e-mail and delete the message and any attachments from your system. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [email protected] with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN
