On Thu, Mar 15, 2018 at 1:03 PM, Tom Marchant < [email protected]> wrote:
> On Thu, 15 Mar 2018 08:25:53 -0500, John McKown wrote: > > >I wish > >that ISPF would could be run from a z/OS UNIX shell (the way TSO ISPF runs > >under a "TSO shell"). > > So that you will be in the Unix shell rather than TSO when you exit ISPF? > It is very rare for me to do anything in TSO other than logoff. > > Or is your real wish that it be easier to do Unix stuff while in ISPF? For > example, > a UNIX command, similar to the TSO command, or perhaps an ISPF option 6U, > like 6, but for Unix commands, with a Unix environment that would be > retained > between commands. > Yes, that would be very nice! I like using UNIX commands simply because I know how to do some things in awk & PERL which are just a PITA to do in REXX. The real PITA of REXX is the necessity of writing a REXX routine using PDF (option 2), saving the routine as a "temporary" member in a library allocated to SYSEXEC, then running it. I also like "piping" data from command to command rather than saving intermediate "temporary" data sets. What I do, on occasion, is use ISPF option 6 to invoke the OMVS command and when I want to "change screens", I do an OEDIT ~/junk. But I'd really prefer is having OMVS be like SDSF in that SDSF can be used as a native TSO 3270 command as well as an ISPF command. If OMVS were to change from using native 3270 to native ISPF when invoked under ISPF, that would be much better. Another reason that I like the UNIX shell is that I can have a number of them all going at once (telnet or ssh multiple times) so that a "long running" command does not stop me from doing other things. ISPF can't really process its multiple screens well. I.e. I can't do a REXX exec in an edit session (issuing a lot of ISREDIT commands, perhaps looping) and, while that is running, swap screens over to SDSF to see how a batch job is running and examine its output. > > -- > Tom Marchant > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, > send email to [email protected] with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN > -- I have a theory that it's impossible to prove anything, but I can't prove it. Maranatha! <>< John McKown ---------------------------------------------------------------------- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [email protected] with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN
