Matt, Thanks for the detail description, I wasn’t sure of it’s capabilities and now with this explanation I understand functionally Zowe.
A big thanks, Scott IDMWORKS z/OS dev. On Sun, Jan 6, 2019 at 6:57 PM <[email protected]> wrote: > Matt, > > Thanks for the detailed reply. > > I wish there were more responses like this for the dumbass SAS coders like > me. > > > Ron Hawkins > Director, Ipsicsopt Pty Ltd (ACN: 627 705 971) | m: +61 400029610 | h: +61 > 387399252 | email: [email protected] > > -----Original Message----- > From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List <[email protected]> On Behalf > Of Matt Hogstrom > Sent: Monday, 7 January 2019 10:16 > To: [email protected] > Subject: Re: [IBM-MAIN] Zowe? > > Not to mention the difference between nappies and diapers. > > Zowe is an open source project created to host technologies that benefit > the Z platform from all members of the Z community (ISV’s and consumers). > The initial code base was seeded with technologies from CA Technologies, > IBM and Rocket. Each of us had developed capabilities that we wanted to > use to enhance the platform but proprietary products were not the way to > create an eco-system; creating proprietary products was just BAU. We > needed to see if such a community was viable and so each contributed a set > of technology and we worked through the legal issues of moving what was new > and some long-standing code to an EPL-2.0 license which allows anyone to > consume and use the code. The choice of three was more about being able to > manage the issues of community formation and not in any way to be > exclusive. Three was a lot of work and we now have a good framework > (legal, governance, hosting, etc.) to start with. > > A late addition by CA was the addition of the Mediation Layer which we are > using to federate a number of platform services. We have an advanced use > of JWT that allows for accessing multiple services only requiring a user to > sign-on once. This is ahead of platform goals of using JWT in the Security > Managers. Open source allows us to experiment and deliver capabilities > faster than traditional development methods and delivery streams on Z. > > The initial contributions were the CLI and some VS Code extensions from > CA, WebSocket enabled APIs from IBM and a HTML5 enabled desktop that > allowed for hosting multiple Angular applications. Consider these > contributions to be more of the framework for enabling access to Z on-top > of which new applications can be built. The applications that are provided > as of now and a few more candidates for 1.0 later this month are: > > CLI plugins (Console, TSO, file, JES interface, etc.) where developers > that are not accustomed to Z can interact using their shell of choice (we > expect most people to be some bash variant). This interface uses direct > z/OSMF APIs for these services. > > JES Explorer (GUI to interact with JES much like a Finder or Explorer on > Windows would work). Simple and familiar web interface that doesn’t > require 3270 to submit, retrieve check status on jobs, etc. > > MVS and USS explorer. Provides access for retrieving / sending files to > and from the z/OS system. Again, very Finder / Explorer like. A > significant advantage here is the applications run in an HTML 5 framework > and eliminate the maintenance of Java and other frameworks on desktops. > There are a number of customers that are looking to eliminate Desktop > dependencies around Java. > > Contextual Editor (allows for editing and updating with a context > sensitive editor that is extensible with a language server). > > TN3270 Emulator - fully functional 3270 emulator that runs in the > desktop. All models supported. No client install needed. > > Some applications that I’m working on are an IPL explorer that will > interrogate the systems in a Plex and navigate the rats nest of Parmiib > members. Doing this at night so going is a bit slow right now. > > Other products are using Zowe capabilities like the IBM Db2 Dev/Ops > experience as well as the OMEGAMON for Storage. Other products are coming > as well. > > The best way I have to describe Zowe is that its like Mac or Windows where > they come with a set of APIs and OS capabilities that applications build on > and include some applications out of the box like described above. > > The goal is to innovate faster, in the open under the oversight of a > community that vets the code, verifies its source and tests what is > delivered. > > Sorry for the long response to the WTF question but I think it was a fair > question that deserved a response. > > > Matt Hogstrom > [email protected] > PGP Key: 0x90ECB270 > Facebook <https://facebook.com/hogtopia> LinkedIn < > https://linkedin.com/in/mhogstrom> Twitter <https://twitter.com/hogstrom> > > "Never attribute to malice that which is adequately explained by > stupidity.” - Hanlon’s Razor > > > On Jan 6, 2019, at 4:02 PM, Wayne Bickerdike <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > Only hoods wear bonnets and elephants never forget to wear one on > > their trunk. > > > > On Mon, Jan 7, 2019 at 7:34 AM Seymour J Metz <[email protected]> wrote: > > > >> J. D. Salinger? > >> > >> > >> -- > >> Shmuel (Seymour J.) Metz > >> http://mason.gmu.edu/~smetz3 > >> > >> ________________________________________ > >> From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List <[email protected]> on > >> behalf of Jesse 1 Robinson <[email protected]> > >> Sent: Friday, January 4, 2019 7:46 PM > >> To: [email protected] > >> Subject: Re: Zowe? > >> > >> Stepping aside from what Zowe the architecture consists of, could we > >> at least agree up front how to say it? (The confusion over 'Linux' > >> went on way too long.) > >> > >> When Zowe was introduced to SHARE in St. Louis, the authors allowed > >> that they wanted a homophone of the given name Zoe, but that spelling > >> was not available for trademark. But it was how it was meant be > >> pronounced. It does not rhyme with 'Howie'. > >> > >> If you're still fixated on what Zowe means at heart, see > >> > >> > >> https://secure-web.cisco.com/1dGjOVqvqg8MBCpaL5jRrmDDBN3mOKgbIto9OVkw > >> _RbjBHT8vy3nbSDtCxxYOZRQIqM5vHmjR6VZXf7YWPVbfrpQXarGETvEoKSaZn2bBxHR8 > >> JlJa5Krc_6-6FKGLdJBWWFXiI3fjqDj1wheawT_2WJwAgBAtLFvObt2t67EWpFmktPk3o > >> myTsYZocI9vDtkfby4q0FJ4X69DKy7-MDg9eFgQzvglgP4DffzIbmucUoWIlu_fIg3rjI > >> U--emPP7cG_0XhjeThHGenQN6uC6ZUr-qzWdL4HgXeDPv-ku80D1cLiO_Sc7ATdvOk5Mw > >> cZnw0pMWUhcoVFP7BHUdah4IU813n1xbgF6E5rNNHu3D5xdUhwBj0l4a6OvW2hiIJ9SjP > >> KrfsoUjFxVI7n8DjfJKRbjdVR5EOJR2o9MmZlLtlSBDurusE2uWvFlqqW7GYjH3O/http > >> s%3A%2F%2Fen.wikipedia.org%2Fwiki%2FZoe_%28name%29 > >> > >> . > >> . > >> J.O.Skip Robinson > >> Southern California Edison Company > >> Electric Dragon Team Paddler > >> SHARE MVS Program Co-Manager > >> 323-715-0595 Mobile > >> 626-543-6132 Office ⇐=== NEW > >> [email protected] > >> > >> > >> -----Original Message----- > >> From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:[email protected]] > >> On Behalf Of Schuffenhauer, Mark > >> Sent: Friday, January 04, 2019 1:41 PM > >> To: [email protected] > >> Subject: (External):Re: Zowe? > >> > >> Depends on if they have server experience beyond Windows, then there can > >> be a frame of reference. Otherwise, I prefer to use an example based > on > >> playing multi-player console/PC games. You can go local or remote, it > >> doesn't matter, but how can one box have 4 people play at once? How > >> can the same game be played by 40 people across the world? > >> > >> Just slam your head against something hard, so you don't get into any > >> detail and stick with concepts. > >> > >> -----Original Message----- > >> From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List <[email protected]> On > >> Behalf Of scott Ford > >> Sent: Friday, January 04, 2019 3:13 PM > >> To: [email protected] > >> Subject: Re: Zowe? > >> > >> R.S., boy can I related to that..CICS is a foreign concept to PC > >> people because of their experience and frame of reference. > >> > >> Scott > >> > >> On Fri, Jan 4, 2019 at 4:02 PM R.S. <[email protected]> > >> wrote: > >> > >>> W dniu 2019-01-04 o 18:31, Phil Smith III pisze: > >>>> A colleague asked me, "WTF really *is* Zowe?" and the only answer I > >>>> had > >>> was that I thought it was like z/OSMF, only more so (and ISTR that > >>> it's even built on top of z/OSMF), and open source. > >>>> [...] > >>> > >>> That remains me my troubles when I teach "Mainframe introduction" > >>> classes - how to explain PC folks what is CICS? > >>> ;-))) > >>> > >>> Regards > >>> -- > >>> Radoslaw Skorupka > >>> Lodz, Poland > >> > >> Scott Ford > >> IDMWORKS > >> z/OS Development > >> > >> --------------------------------------------------------------------- > >> - For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, > >> send email to [email protected] with the message: INFO > >> IBM-MAIN > >> > >> --------------------------------------------------------------------- > >> - For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, > >> send email to [email protected] with the message: INFO > >> IBM-MAIN > >> > > > > > > -- > > Wayne V. 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