3350 models C2 and C2F were tail of string units. As I recall, for 3375 the C boxes included a control unit so it could attach directly to the channel.
-- Shmuel (Seymour J.) Metz http://mason.gmu.edu/~smetz3 ________________________________________ From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List <[email protected]> on behalf of Martin Packer <[email protected]> Sent: Friday, May 17, 2019 10:33 AM To: [email protected] Subject: Re: Ancient DASD connectivity And then there were double-ended strings of disks. 3350s? Just before my time, really. 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There is some overloaded nomenclature here; the control function of an A unit is entirely different from a control unit. -- Shmuel (Seymour J.) Metz https://secure-web.cisco.com/192B_8vChSMEyndnDPZG4RNlm17VN3PY80ixM5PthJQg8MVIiqCvk9ByLRPOEMdWbZdqGwhf4ppFbu3Lu1yy9-DSjADiZM3jzcZ4UZOo_drGdzNjGpAjEJpZ9JLRrGARR_uXICqAlkz1Yov-GLPH8yR57rGEmecK6kz3PmnVnXrn0FuQO0BktLd5oYo0NkdzPMGQ59teedMN8CJ6sG-WVK9CHUcHTGJYS1ZdAHJLA85oxsmKA0m3obsoSufzR1CArcEmQoyq4F3aFPIZa7aC-ukShghPM2JEiKAM8d1iMop2PkRl3lvlhA_d71aBCSPuNh1-ViaUQhBT22zIYIys3lNRGcep-3yXPDvn2z4L58b2Vhtv-5f8hqyWhdIUM6xJ0CdX8qEVYPY-fxg4SGfkS3831zr_4754rutnDDNCVyeM/https%3A%2F%2Furldefense.proofpoint.com%2Fv2%2Furl%3Fu%3Dhttp-3A__mason.gmu.edu_-7Esmetz3%26d%3DDwIFAw%26c%3Djf_iaSHvJObTbx-siA1ZOg%26r%3DBsPGKdq7-Vl8MW2-WOWZjlZ0NwmcFSpQCLphNznBSDQ%26m%3DsbtcjKhJzgcjkqtihVmO6CFwHrRj5q-KUW7yT03NU7Q%26s%3DUjmNKh0zJMgKPveYfD_9y2AfqLn86GvSJJsO6tUpx0Y%26e%3D ________________________________________ From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List <[email protected]> on behalf of Alan Altmark <[email protected]> Sent: Friday, May 17, 2019 10:02 AM To: [email protected] Subject: Re: Ancient DASD connectivity On Thu, 16 May 2019 15:26:45 +0000, Seymour J Metz <[email protected]> wrote: >Well, for some devices the CU and device were in the same box, e.g., 2501. Yes. A-units (Axx models) often include(d) at least one, possibly two or even four, I/O devices, with B units (Bxx models) providing expansion. Last CU standing in the A/B world was, I think, the IBM 3590, but it all went out the window when the 3592s made their debut. While it was interesting for IBM to wear it's engineering designs on its visible sleeve, it was confusing. Model numbers today are more expressions of marketing than of the underlying technology. Fun times. 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