Thanks everyone.
That certainly helps.

On Sat, Aug 3, 2019 at 4:31 PM Charles Mills <[email protected]> wrote:

> Others have mentioned backups. The real value is in the right to *do*
> backups. Your storage administrator may have access to the dataset, but not
> the decryption key. So he can do backups, but he can't steal credit card
> numbers or health information.
>
> Charles
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:[email protected]] On
> Behalf Of Cameron Conacher
> Sent: Saturday, August 3, 2019 12:49 PM
> To: [email protected]
> Subject: Pervasive Encryption - why?
>
> Hello everyone,
> I have a curiousity question about Pervasive Encryption.
> If we are already protecting resources with RACF, what additional benefit
> do we get from Pervasive Encryption? I think it is a good idea, since
> encrypted data lets me sleep better. Pervasive Encryption appears to be
> very simple to implement.
> My understanding (which may be incorrect) is that RACF will be used to
> control encryption key access based on dataset profile rules and RACF
> rules.
> If a RACF ID does not have access to the encryption keys then they cannot
> access the dataset.
> But at the same time, if a RACF ID does not have access to the dataset,
> they cannot access it.
>
> So, if the underlying file is encrypted, what addition security is in
> place?
> Maybe if someone breaks into the data centre and steals the disk drives?
>
> If a hacker gets a RACF ID, and the RACF ID allows them to access the
> dataset, then they can read the data.
> But, isn't that where we are today? No RACF ID = no access.
>
> Obviously I am missing something here.
>
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