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ITschak Mugzach
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Subject: (External):Re: Pervasive Encryption - why?

And the major reason, it easy and allmost cost nothing. I have a client in the 
us that encrypted almost anything /(short block sizes are not supported). He 
claims that on z14 box cpu is almost the same.

ITschak

בתאריך יום א׳, 4 באוג׳ 2019, 19:51, מאת Lennie Dymoke-Bradshaw ‏<
lenni...@rsmpartners.com>:

> Cameron,
>
> I missed this post the other day and I see many others have replied.
>
> My first reason for PE for data sets is that encryption protects the 
> data when it is accessed outside of its normal environment (i.e. not 
> via the data's normal RACF environment). So this includes removable 
> backups which are accessed away from your normal system. It covers 
> data extracted over PPRC links while being transferred to another 
> site. It also covers situations where production volumes may be 
> accessed from development LPARs or sysprog LPARs. This last case is 
> something I find at many sites. It is frequently justified in the name 
> of availability. I think if it was widely understood by auditors, they would 
> be raising a stink about it.
>
> My second reason is for compliance, whether that is to support GDPR, 
> PCI or whatever standard your installation is subject to. I have 
> always hoped that money spent on that compliance will actually improve 
> security.
>
> You may be interested in my paper on the backup of encrypted data.
> https://rsmpartners.com/News.Data-Backups-&-PE-Technical-Paper.html
>
> Lennie Dymoke-Bradshaw | Security Lead | RSM Partners Ltd
>
> Email:            lenni...@rsmpartners.com
> Web:              www.rsmpartners.com
> ‘Dance like no one is watching. Encrypt like everyone is.’
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List <IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU> On 
> Behalf Of Cameron Conacher
> Sent: 03 August 2019 17:49
> To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU
> Subject: [IBM-MAIN] Pervasive Encryption - why?
>
> Hello everyone,
> I have a curiousity question about Pervasive Encryption.
> If we are already protecting resources with RACF, what additional 
> benefit do we get from Pervasive Encryption? I think it is a good 
> idea, since encrypted data lets me sleep better. Pervasive Encryption 
> appears to be very simple to implement.
> My understanding (which may be incorrect) is that RACF will be used to 
> control encryption key access based on dataset profile rules and RACF rules.
> If a RACF ID does not have access to the encryption keys then they 
> cannot access the dataset.
> But at the same time, if a RACF ID does not have access to the 
> dataset, they cannot access it.
>
> So, if the underlying file is encrypted, what addition security is in 
> place?
> Maybe if someone breaks into the data centre and steals the disk drives?
>
> If a hacker gets a RACF ID, and the RACF ID allows them to access the 
> dataset, then they can read the data.
> But, isn't that where we are today? No RACF ID = no access.
>
> Obviously I am missing something here.
>
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