Yea...  Funny thing it is a pretty major/well known Financial Application 
vendor.   Every 4-6 months for the last two years I've been pinging them on 
their status.   I just don’t think they understand the gravity of the situation 
they are creating here.

Also, I did open a PMR on this PTF.   It's not clear to me that the support it 
discusses continues into V2.4?

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Mike Schwab
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I would ask they cover your cost for this as part of their product, since they 
are the only product you use that needs it.

On Fri, Aug 30, 2019 at 5:20 AM Jousma, David 
<[email protected]> wrote:
>
> This is the first I have seen this!   That is good news.  We have one 
> particular Financial Business application, written/distributed by outside 
> vendor that I have been bugging now since I put V2.3 in almost 2 years ago to 
> remediate.   They still have not yet remediated there code, and I was 
> thinking this was going to hold up my implementation.
>
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> -----Original Message-----
> From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List <[email protected]> On 
> Behalf Of Vernooij, Kees (ITOP NM) - KLM
> Sent: Friday, August 30, 2019 4:20 AM
> To: [email protected]
> Subject: Re: z/OS 2.1 to 2.4
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> IBM has a payed feature called Restricted Use CSA, that allows you to keep 
> your applics with userkeycsa running in 2.4.
> Check OA56180.
>
> Kees.
>
>
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List 
> > [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Gibney, Dave
> > Sent: 30 August, 2019 10:06
> > To: [email protected]
> > Subject: Re: z/OS 2.1 to 2.4
> >
> > Just monoplexes. Some limited sharing of DASD. Not even GRS.
> > But, I had forgot about ALLOWUSERKEYCSA(YES). We do use that setting.
> > Our Natural Global Buffer Pool is one such use.
> > We are quite back level with both Natural and Adabas.
> >
> >
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List <[email protected]> On 
> > > Behalf Of Brian Westerman
> > > Sent: Thursday, August 29, 2019 11:53 PM
> > > To: [email protected]
> > > Subject: Re: z/OS 2.1 to 2.4
> > >
> > > IS your a Parallel sysplex or just LPAR environment?  If not 
> > > parallel
> > sysplex,
> > > then you have nothing to worry about, except for the fact that the
> > > ALLOWUSERKEYCSA(YES) change (which won't affect you if you aren't 
> > > using
> > it
> > > now), everything else is fairly minor.  If your running a sysplex, 
> > > then
> > you
> > > probably are okay, but it will depend on a lot of factors which I 
> > > don't
> > have
> > > enough information to tell you about.
> > >
> > > You can contact me offline if you want and we can discuss it, but 
> > > I
> > suspect
> > > that so long as you are not running some pretty old vendor 
> > > software or
> > some
> > > really crappy home grown code that you will have very few (if any)
> > issues.
> > >
> > > Brian
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