Well, my excitement was short-lived.....In the text of OA56180 I read:

Note: This APAR only applies to user key CSA storage.  Both
  user key (8-15) SCOPE=COMMON data spaces and the usage of
  the CHANGKEY service to change the storage key of common
  storage to a key of 8-15 are not affected by this APAR,
  and will no longer be supported after z/OS V2R3.


Sadly, this application is creating UserKey Common data space and using it as a 
high-perf "data base" within the application for their batch jobs.  I've known 
about it since IBM enabled reporting via SMF30 records.

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It does, because 2.4 does not support userkeycsa(yes) anymore. It is also 
discussed in the 2.4 migration guide.

It seems to me the feature will stay, because IBM has fulfilled its goal to 
block CSA from being used by unauthorized users with full read/write access. 
Now you must selectively permit userkey csa to users and it is now your 
responsibility.

Kees.

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> On Behalf Of Jousma, David
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> Subject: Re: z/OS 2.1 to 2.4
> 
> Yea...  Funny thing it is a pretty major/well known Financial Application
> vendor.   Every 4-6 months for the last two years I've been pinging them
> on their status.   I just don’t think they understand the gravity of the
> situation they are creating here.
> 
> Also, I did open a PMR on this PTF.   It's not clear to me that the
> support it discusses continues into V2.4?
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> I would ask they cover your cost for this as part of their product, 
> since they are the only product you use that needs it.
> 
> On Fri, Aug 30, 2019 at 5:20 AM Jousma, David <000001a0403c5dc1-dmarc- 
> requ...@listserv.ua.edu> wrote:
> >
> > This is the first I have seen this!   That is good news.  We have one
> particular Financial Business application, written/distributed by 
> outside vendor that I have been bugging now since I put V2.3 in almost 2 
> years ago
> to remediate.   They still have not yet remediated there code, and I was
> thinking this was going to hold up my implementation.
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> > IBM has a payed feature called Restricted Use CSA, that allows you 
> > to
> keep your applics with userkeycsa running in 2.4.
> > Check OA56180.
> >
> > Kees.
> >
> >
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List 
> > > [mailto:IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] On Behalf Of Gibney, Dave
> > > Sent: 30 August, 2019 10:06
> > > To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU
> > > Subject: Re: z/OS 2.1 to 2.4
> > >
> > > Just monoplexes. Some limited sharing of DASD. Not even GRS.
> > > But, I had forgot about ALLOWUSERKEYCSA(YES). We do use that setting.
> > > Our Natural Global Buffer Pool is one such use.
> > > We are quite back level with both Natural and Adabas.
> > >
> > >
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> > > > On Behalf Of Brian Westerman
> > > > Sent: Thursday, August 29, 2019 11:53 PM
> > > > To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU
> > > > Subject: Re: z/OS 2.1 to 2.4
> > > >
> > > > IS your a Parallel sysplex or just LPAR environment?  If not 
> > > > parallel
> > > sysplex,
> > > > then you have nothing to worry about, except for the fact that 
> > > > the
> > > > ALLOWUSERKEYCSA(YES) change (which won't affect you if you 
> > > > aren't using
> > > it
> > > > now), everything else is fairly minor.  If your running a 
> > > > sysplex, then
> > > you
> > > > probably are okay, but it will depend on a lot of factors which 
> > > > I don't
> > > have
> > > > enough information to tell you about.
> > > >
> > > > You can contact me offline if you want and we can discuss it, 
> > > > but I
> > > suspect
> > > > that so long as you are not running some pretty old vendor 
> > > > software or
> > > some
> > > > really crappy home grown code that you will have very few (if 
> > > > any)
> > > issues.
> > > >
> > > > Brian
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