Yes, then it is the end for this application. But from your description I understand that there must be more customers who will have the 2.4 problem. Is this still no reason for the company to start converting to the current standards?
Kees. > -----Original Message----- > From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] On > Behalf Of Jousma, David > Sent: 30 August, 2019 13:18 > To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU > Subject: Re: z/OS 2.1 to 2.4 > > Well, my excitement was short-lived.....In the text of OA56180 I read: > > Note: This APAR only applies to user key CSA storage. Both > user key (8-15) SCOPE=COMMON data spaces and the usage of > the CHANGKEY service to change the storage key of common > storage to a key of 8-15 are not affected by this APAR, > and will no longer be supported after z/OS V2R3. > > > Sadly, this application is creating UserKey Common data space and using it > as a high-perf "data base" within the application for their batch jobs. > I've known about it since IBM enabled reporting via SMF30 records. > > __________________________________________________________________________ > ___________________________ > Dave Jousma > AVP | Manager, Systems Engineering > > Fifth Third Bank | 1830 East Paris Ave, SE | MD RSCB2H | Grand > Rapids, MI 49546 > 616.653.8429 | fax: 616.653.2717 > > > > -----Original Message----- > From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List <IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU> On Behalf > Of Vernooij, Kees (ITOP NM) - KLM > Sent: Friday, August 30, 2019 7:02 AM > To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU > Subject: Re: z/OS 2.1 to 2.4 > > **CAUTION EXTERNAL EMAIL** > > **DO NOT open attachments or click on links from unknown senders or > unexpected emails** > > It does, because 2.4 does not support userkeycsa(yes) anymore. It is also > discussed in the 2.4 migration guide. > > It seems to me the feature will stay, because IBM has fulfilled its goal > to block CSA from being used by unauthorized users with full read/write > access. Now you must selectively permit userkey csa to users and it is now > your responsibility. > > Kees. > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] > > On Behalf Of Jousma, David > > Sent: 30 August, 2019 12:47 > > To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU > > Subject: Re: z/OS 2.1 to 2.4 > > > > Yea... Funny thing it is a pretty major/well known Financial > Application > > vendor. Every 4-6 months for the last two years I've been pinging them > > on their status. I just don’t think they understand the gravity of the > > situation they are creating here. > > > > Also, I did open a PMR on this PTF. It's not clear to me that the > > support it discusses continues into V2.4? > > > > ______________________________________________________________________ > > ____ > > ___________________________ > > Dave Jousma > > AVP | Manager, Systems Engineering > > > > Fifth Third Bank | 1830 East Paris Ave, SE | MD RSCB2H | Grand > > Rapids, MI 49546 > > 616.653.8429 | fax: 616.653.2717 > > > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List <IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU> On > > Behalf Of Mike Schwab > > Sent: Friday, August 30, 2019 6:34 AM > > To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU > > Subject: Re: z/OS 2.1 to 2.4 > > > > **CAUTION EXTERNAL EMAIL** > > > > **DO NOT open attachments or click on links from unknown senders or > > unexpected emails** > > > > I would ask they cover your cost for this as part of their product, > > since they are the only product you use that needs it. > > > > On Fri, Aug 30, 2019 at 5:20 AM Jousma, David <000001a0403c5dc1-dmarc- > > requ...@listserv.ua.edu> wrote: > > > > > > This is the first I have seen this! That is good news. We have one > > particular Financial Business application, written/distributed by > > outside vendor that I have been bugging now since I put V2.3 in almost 2 > years ago > > to remediate. They still have not yet remediated there code, and I was > > thinking this was going to hold up my implementation. > > > > > > ____________________________________________________________________ > > > __ > > > _______________________________ > > > Dave Jousma > > > AVP | Manager, Systems Engineering > > > > > > Fifth Third Bank | 1830 East Paris Ave, SE | MD RSCB2H | Grand > > > Rapids, MI 49546 > > > 616.653.8429 | fax: 616.653.2717 > > > > > > > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > > From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List <IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU> On > > > Behalf Of Vernooij, Kees (ITOP NM) - KLM > > > Sent: Friday, August 30, 2019 4:20 AM > > > To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU > > > Subject: Re: z/OS 2.1 to 2.4 > > > > > > **CAUTION EXTERNAL EMAIL** > > > > > > **DO NOT open attachments or click on links from unknown senders or > > > unexpected emails** > > > > > > IBM has a payed feature called Restricted Use CSA, that allows you > > > to > > keep your applics with userkeycsa running in 2.4. > > > Check OA56180. > > > > > > Kees. > > > > > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > > > From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List > > > > [mailto:IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] On Behalf Of Gibney, Dave > > > > Sent: 30 August, 2019 10:06 > > > > To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU > > > > Subject: Re: z/OS 2.1 to 2.4 > > > > > > > > Just monoplexes. Some limited sharing of DASD. Not even GRS. > > > > But, I had forgot about ALLOWUSERKEYCSA(YES). We do use that > setting. > > > > Our Natural Global Buffer Pool is one such use. > > > > We are quite back level with both Natural and Adabas. > > > > > > > > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > > > > From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List <IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU> > > > > > On Behalf Of Brian Westerman > > > > > Sent: Thursday, August 29, 2019 11:53 PM > > > > > To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU > > > > > Subject: Re: z/OS 2.1 to 2.4 > > > > > > > > > > IS your a Parallel sysplex or just LPAR environment? If not > > > > > parallel > > > > sysplex, > > > > > then you have nothing to worry about, except for the fact that > > > > > the > > > > > ALLOWUSERKEYCSA(YES) change (which won't affect you if you > > > > > aren't using > > > > it > > > > > now), everything else is fairly minor. 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