What does "under unix" mean exactly?

On Mon, Nov 4, 2019 at 6:32 AM ITschak Mugzach <[email protected]> wrote:

> Thats fine. However, java itself runs under unix...
>
> ITschak
>
> בתאריך יום ב׳, 4 בנוב׳ 2019, 14:30, מאת Steve Austin ‏<
> [email protected]>:
>
> > It was a while back, but I'm pretty sureI have used  _BPX_SHAREAS and the
> > spawn syscall from REXX, to run Java in the same address space.
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:[email protected]] On
> > Behalf Of Lionel B Dyck
> > Sent: Monday, November 4, 2019 12:00 PM
> > To: [email protected]
> > Subject: Re: Improving the performance of an ISPF app using OMVS services
> > (bpxwunix)
> >
> > Thanks for the education.
> >
> > Guess I need to find a faster system 😊
> >
> > Lionel B. Dyck <sdg><
> > Website: http://www.lbdsoftware.com
> >
> > "Worry more about your character than your reputation.  Character is what
> > you are, reputation merely what others think you are." - John Wooden
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List <[email protected]> On Behalf
> > Of ITschak Mugzach
> > Sent: Monday, November 4, 2019 5:52 AM
> > To: [email protected]
> > Subject: Re: Improving the performance of an ISPF app using OMVS services
> > (bpxwunix)
> >
> > No. the fork is a unix issue. the first shell task will be started as a
> > separate asid and then, if _BPXSHAREDAS is on, called shell programs will
> > run in the same (new) asid. You can see in the syslog the evidence of the
> > new ASID started. It is usually has the id of the caller plus numeric
> value.
> >
> >
> > On Mon, Nov 4, 2019 at 1:46 PM Lionel B Dyck <[email protected]> wrote:
> >
> > > But when rexx, under ispf, invokes bpxwunix won't the sharedas help to
> > > prevent the fork?
> > >
> > >
> > > Lionel B. Dyck <sdg><
> > > Website: http://www.lbdsoftware.com
> > >
> > > "Worry more about your character than your reputation.  Character is
> > > what you are, reputation merely what others think you are." - John
> > > Wooden
> > >
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List <[email protected]> On
> > > Behalf Of ITschak Mugzach
> > > Sent: Monday, November 4, 2019 5:36 AM
> > > To: [email protected]
> > > Subject: Re: Improving the performance of an ISPF app using OMVS
> > > services
> > > (bpxwunix)
> > >
> > > That's because _BPX_SHAREDAS is related to a main shell program and
> > > its forks. not to the Rexx (or whatever the caller is) and the unix
> > shell.
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > On Mon, Nov 4, 2019 at 1:29 PM Lionel B Dyck <[email protected]> wrote:
> > >
> > > > That was my fear 😊
> > > >
> > > > I did find these which I implemented in my .profile and I'm not
> > > > seeing any  visual improvements:
> > > >
> > > > export _BPX_SHAREAS=YES
> > > > export _BPX_SPAWN_SCRIPT=YES
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > Lionel B. Dyck <sdg><
> > > > Website: http://www.lbdsoftware.com
> > > >
> > > > "Worry more about your character than your reputation.  Character is
> > > > what you are, reputation merely what others think you are." - John
> > > > Wooden
> > > >
> > > > -----Original Message-----
> > > > From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List <[email protected]> On
> > > > Behalf Of ITschak Mugzach
> > > > Sent: Monday, November 4, 2019 5:25 AM
> > > > To: [email protected]
> > > > Subject: Re: Improving the performance of an ISPF app using OMVS
> > > > services
> > > > (bpxwunix)
> > > >
> > > > Lionel,
> > > >
> > > > The secret is that zPDT systems are not heavily loaded. As you load
> > > > the system (or start mot guests, if running under z/vm), the system
> > > > starts to slow down. BPXWUNIX starts a new address space, so by
> > > > definition it is more cpu consuming, that affects elapse.
> > > >
> > > > ITschak
> > > >
> > > > On Mon, Nov 4, 2019 at 1:20 PM Lionel B Dyck <[email protected]>
> wrote:
> > > >
> > > > > Are there any hints/tips to improve the performance of an ISPF
> > > > > application that uses BPXWUNIX?  In running on my normal system
> > > > > the performance is very slow compared to a friends system running
> > > > > on a
> > > zPDT.
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > I couldn't find a SHARE presentation (but I may not have used the
> > > > > correct
> > > > > keywords) and the IBM pubs are not speaking to me as nothing jumps
> > out.
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > Lionel B. Dyck <sdg><
> > > > > Website:  <http://www.lbdsoftware.com/> http://www.lbdsoftware.com
> > > > >
> > > > > "Worry more about your character than your reputation.  Character
> > > > > is what you are, reputation merely what others think you are." -
> > > > > John Wooden
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
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