Not all change is progress. They don't call vi TEFH for no reason. As for 
regexen, don't teach your grandmother to suck eggs (no, I have no idea where 
the phrase originated.) 

Do I really need 4 Linux boxes? Aren't 3 enough?

Using vi would be a lurch backward. And do you mean the same thing by macro 
that I mean by macro?


--
Shmuel (Seymour J.) Metz
http://mason.gmu.edu/~smetz3

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From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [[email protected]] on behalf of 
Jack J. Woehr [[email protected]]
Sent: Monday, March 30, 2020 3:34 PM
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: strange python announcement

On 3/30/20 12:59 PM, Seymour J Metz wrote:
> The OMVS 3270 shell always struck me as having been written by somebody who 
> didn't understand either the 3270 or VTAM.
>
> As to vi, can I easily script it with REXX, or at least Perl?

If you're going to use modern open source on USS:

  * Learn to use SSH with keys for login vs. password.
  * Learn to set your terminal.
  * Learn the basics of bash and shells in general.
  * Install and use vim, the modern replacement for vi (yes it takes its
    own kind of scripting)
  * Learn regex programs like
      o grep
      o sed
  * and. learn. Python.
  * Get yourself a Linux box (z/Linux is just fine) as a reference platform.

PS I'm not catcalling from a distance, I was doing all this on z/OS in 2016.

Time to catch up with IBM i.

Yes, it's a lurch, but it's a lurch forward for your practice and community.

It's organic, it's healthy, and it's not going away.

--
Jack J. Woehr     # Science is more than a body of knowledge. It's a way of
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