I do not know about VISAM, but 360 FFS used variable length QISAM and BISAM in 
the late 60s and early 70s.  The DOD used a lot of it.  Been there and learned 
assembler to support applications using it.

Lloyd

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> On Mar 31, 2020, at 8:42 PM, Seymour J Metz <[email protected]> wrote:
> 
> There was also a VISAM in TSS.
> 
> 
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> Shmuel (Seymour J.) Metz
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> Charles Mills [[email protected]]
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> 
> There were apparently several "VISAMs" around, because OCCURS DEPENDING is 
> such a basic feature of COBOL but RECFM=V was not supported by ISAM.
> 
> I had a client (not FSA but interestingly also in the financial package 
> software business) that had its own homegrown (AFAIK) VISAM. It used short 
> fixed-length ISAM records with keys and a pointer to variable length BDAM 
> records. I remember it because I wrote some software that utilized it (but I 
> was not at all involved in its development).
> 
> Charles
> 
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> -----Original Message-----
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> Subject: Re: PARM= vs PARMDD= and symbol substitution
> 
> Digging back into my mind for data from 1983:
> 
> Third National of Nashville (TNB) ran a bank data processing site in
> Florence, AL. The main bank there was First National (FNB). TNB decided
> to close up shop in Florence so FNB took their data processing in-house.
> FNB did not have a data processing department before this.
> 
> I was one of three programmers hired by FNB for this new department. The
> complete staff from the TNB site was hired by FNB with the permission of
> TNB as the operational staff.
> 
> We converted the data from TNB in-house written code to a set of
> programs from an Orlando base software provider Financial Software of
> America (FSA), later bought by UCC to become part of the new UCCEL
> company, later acquired by CA and so forth. The one system FSA did not
> have yet, but we needed, was a loan processing package. (They were
> writing it, but it was not yet available.)
> 
> TNB decided to give FNB the complete source for their Loan System. It
> was in assembler and I was tasked to convert it from MVS (or what ever
> at that time) to DOS/SIPO (predecessor to z/VSE).
> 
> What I found was interesting. The system used something called VISAM, or
> "variable length ISAM". It was not a big problem to convert it to VSAM,
> but here is the story I got about VISAM.
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